This has probably been addressed before
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably > already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet > dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. > The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a > counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how > they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how > after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( > near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were > loosing money on the deal. > I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full > sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a > skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " > save the world, send money commercial ". > John
John, Visit one of the on-line pricing services like edmonds, kbb, or carprices. Get the invoice price list printout, take it in to the dealer and let him know that you know how much the dealership paid for the vehicle. Ask him for his best price. Reasonable for a truck is from $0 to $500 over invoice. The dealer will still make money on the deal. Sell your old car yourself, dealers will give you about half the real value for it. — Cheers, Steve 82 Z28 96 K1500 The opinions expressed here are mine alone and do not represent those of my employer or any one else. "It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave…" Moody Blues
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That has happened so many times to me that I just quit going to the dealer for anything other than looking at the vehicle to decide on a color choice. I go to www.carpoint.com or www.edmonds.com to get the dealer invoice price, then I call up the one dealer I know of who won’t give me a bunch of nonsense about price. He charges me a few hundred over invoice, and has it delivered to me. And, I live out of his state. Call Tom Obrien Chevy at 888-430-9781, talk with Tom Obrien, tell him what you want, and he will give you the right price. He is in Texas. Don – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably >already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet >dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. >The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a >counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how >they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how >after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( >near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were >loosing money on the deal. >I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full >sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a >skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " >save the world, send money commercial ". >John >dealers are crooks who will lie to sell anything. that the prices on >vehicles have gone to such lunatic heights and that we the people are >willing to pay this much for them, is truly a sickness. I spent over >$35,000 on a loaded sport utility in 96-cash-and quickly learned to >regret it. keeping up with jones" has become an obsession perpetuated >by the media, tv etc. people don’t realize that as the bar is >continually raised most will never catch up. which leads to >dissatisfaction in life-which is probably artificial. > if they can convince you by having stronger emotions than you, >then you will give them what they want-and they are counting on your >wanting what the truck represents to you so much that you will pay >them what they want. it’s all double talk.
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He said that even at full sticker price they were losing money? Oh yeah, and dealers stay in business how, by public sympathy donations? This guy sounds like he’s totally full of crap. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably >already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet >dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. >The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a >counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how >they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how >after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( >near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were >loosing money on the deal. >I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full >sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a >skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " >save the world, send money commercial ". >John
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably >already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet >dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. >The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a >counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how >they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how >after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( >near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were >loosing money on the deal. >I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full >sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a >skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " >save the world, send money commercial ". >John
The dealer WILL NOT loose money on a sell. They will tell you they are but they will make money. Go to another dealer. Some of them will deal with you .
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably >already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet >dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. >The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a >counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how >they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how >after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( >near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were >loosing money on the deal. >I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full >sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a >skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " >save the world, send money commercial ". >John
Listen, there isn’t a dealer in the world that won’t tell you how much he is sacrificing to "give you this special deal." My uncle is the president of a dealership and he once got so worked up telling me about the new Suburban I was buying that he told me that it was the only one like it in the United States, and the only reason he was giving it up is b/c of "family. It was a plain old Chevrolet Suburban. Obviously, he was exaggerating. Don’t worry about the dealer. If you were buying a ‘99 model, I don’t think that he would lose money to sell it. The only other reasons that he could have told you that were that A.) it was a ‘98 left over, B.)the salesmen still gets paid commission so he doesn’t care if the boss eats it once in a while, or C.)some dealers make a big portion of their money selling insurance, financing, extended warranties, leases, etc. At my uncle’s dealership, they sell everything from Cadillacs and BMW’s to Isuzus and Chevrolets. His most profitable line is Mazda’s, b/c most of his Mazda customers buy insurance from him and they finance their cars. Immediately after telling me this, he tried to get me to buy one, by saying that "intelligent people drive Mazda’s," and "I wouldn’t want to have 30,000 dollars sitting in my driveway, I’d rather have it in the bank at 7%." I reminded him that there weren’t any banks paying 7% right now, and that he would be keeping the difference between what the bank would pay me, and what I would be paying him every month. This is after I had originally gone in to buy a GMC Yukon. The moral of this story: take everything a dealer says to you with a grain of salt. jhh // Jared Haddon Hockema
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably > already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet > dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. > The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a > counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how > they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how > after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( > near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were > loosing money on the deal. > I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full > sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a > skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " > save the world, send money commercial ". > John
The best way to deal with these guys is to mention the comparable Ford or Dodge vehicle and tell him you’re leaving now to go look at it, mention in passing that their price is reasonable. If you see a Ford or Dodge you like, the same applies. I don’t know if a sales droid cares about this, but if you are talking to a sales manager it seems they don’t feel burned when you say you will go to another dealership because they may still get your vehicle for service work, but if you go to the competition, the money sprouts wings and flys away 
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Hey folks, I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were loosing money on the deal. I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " save the world, send money commercial ". John
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably >already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet >dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. >The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a >counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how >they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how >after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( >near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were >loosing money on the deal. >I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full >sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a >skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " >save the world, send money commercial ". >John
dealers are crooks who will lie to sell anything. that the prices on vehicles have gone to such lunatic heights and that we the people are willing to pay this much for them, is truly a sickness. I spent over $35,000 on a loaded sport utility in 96-cash-and quickly learned to regret it. keeping up with jones" has become an obsession perpetuated by the media, tv etc. people don’t realize that as the bar is continually raised most will never catch up. which leads to dissatisfaction in life-which is probably artificial. if they can convince you by having stronger emotions than you, then you will give them what they want-and they are counting on your wanting what the truck represents to you so much that you will pay them what they want. it’s all double talk.
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Just look at the salesman with a smirk, and then turn around and walk. Go to another dealership. This salesman sounds like an idiot. How do you lose money on one of GM’s most profitable vehicles?? superstar! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hey folks, > I’m really not trying to start a thread that has prbably >already been addressed, but, I got totaly confused at the Chevrolet >dealer today. I was looking at new trucks, and asked about the pricing. >The unit we wanted was in the area of about $ 37,000.oo, I made a >counter offer. The salesman went into this song-and-dance, about how >they paid almost $ 30,000 to get the truck on the lot. Then about how >after his sales commision, delivery, setup and taking my 1986 Blazer ( >near perfect condition with 97,000 original miles ) in trade, they were >loosing money on the deal. >I don’t get it, with my down, my trade in truck and if I paid him full >sticker price, how is he loosing money ?. The only thing missing was a >skweaky violin and a couple of skinny kids borrowed from one of those " >save the world, send money commercial ". >John
