1999 Tahoe vs 2000 Expedition
Question:
Someone who buys a truck as a status symbol, not a truck Dennis
Response:
The "new" style Tahoe and truck are nice but after a recent visit to the junk yard for a older vehicle, I found that the only thing that is interchangeable with the new style over the old one is the tires. Nothing and I mean NOTHING will fit on the old style truck, and the dealerships here in Michigan don’t have most parts yet available for the new trucks. So if your out in the woods and you break something in the 4×4 or tranny and you need parts to get home, plan on renting a car or go to a major town and look for a junk yard and still pay as much as at the dealership. Even something as simple as power mirrors are 300.00 in the junk yard and the dealership is back ordered 3 months, Go figure!!! So think twice before buying the "new" style Chevy. And as for buying a Ford, after my past experiences with Generous Motors on my 92 Sonoma that I bought new, Ford and Dodge is looking better all the time. In fact two years ago I bought a 1988 Suzuki Samurai convertible 4×4 for $40.00 and as of today it still hasn’t given me any trouble, I only wish I could say that about my Sonoma. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent >me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said >he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order >one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close >to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal >will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been >around and Chevy is late out of the gate. >I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger >Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a >quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. >Anyone else switch ?
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If the 2000 tahoe was available, I would have probably bought it. there was no way I would buy an old 1999 in 2000.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well then, you just got the quickest deal on the slowest, ugliest pile of > crap you will ever own. Congrats!! > I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less than > 72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust > proofing > to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on > the > carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even got > my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it > can’t get much easier. > > I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they > sent > > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He > said > > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we > order > > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be > close > > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that > deal > > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has > been > > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 > passenger > > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is > a > > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > > Anyone else switch ?
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Boy did someone make someone happy…. Buying a Expidition ove a Tohoe/Yukon? Hell I sell them both new and there is no way a Expidition can outdo the Yukon or Tahoe. We will order a 2000 Yukon cheaper than any dealer in the southeast. We dont have any addendum stickers on our vehicles. "Mop and Glow" as we call it is only dealer cost $35.00. By the way if you check the current black book, you will find that the 99 Tahoe is worth a lot more than the Expidition. Ford has dumped all there lease vehicles on the used market and the 99 Expiditions are cheap. So your investment is doing a fast depreciation. If any one wants to order a Dodge, Ford or GMC truck at a hell of a good price, email me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The only thing I don’t like about my 99 Tohoe is the outdated styling >and the black paint.. Never again am I getting black! > I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they >sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we >order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be >close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that >deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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I’d like to hear those 20 reasons !
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just silly. First, the guy who states below that you can’t afford the > vehicle because you have to finance it is financially ignorant. Paying cash > is stupid. Even if I had $40,000 cash to buy a vehicle, I wouldn’t spend > that much in liquid assets. You never know when you may need it and if you > invest wisely you will make more with your cash than you’re spending on > interest charges. His second point was that environmental packages are a > waste of money. There is some undercoating at the factory, even paint > protection and often scotchguarding. However, the aftermarket packages > include warranties (some lifetime, others five years). Before anyone says > it, I know the manufacurers have attractive SOUNDING warranties, but they > only guard against manufacurer’s defect. i.e. they don’t guard against > salt, acid rain, koolaid, birdshit, etc. So the investment is as good as > auto insurance. > Regarding the original post, I have problems here too. You’re asking people > if they "switched" when the new Tahoe’s and Burbs aren’t even out yet. > Asking sticker price for a very highly demanded vehicle is and should be > acceptable. That’s what free market society is all about. If dealers sold > all cars around invoice they would not make enough money to justify staying > in business, so they have to sell one or two big profit vehicles to make up > for all of the dot.com short deals. Chevy has proven time and again that > they make a better feeling better quality vehicle than Ford. I can list 20 > reasons to buy a Tahoe over an expedition but won’t. You consider the > dealers profit more important than your own satisfaction, and that’s what is > wrong with dot.com purchases. > Just my $.02 > Ken > Undercoating/Rustproofing, this is performed at the > Ford plant. > "Commercial Grade Stain Protector", a $180.00 > can of Scotchguard! > Your’e carrying paper on this car? Then you cannot afford it. > Sorry but I listened to my Dad. > Hey, Buy.Com and Palm Computers go public in a few days, > where are you going to be? > Yupporamma! > David > >I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less > than > >72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust > proofing > >to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on > the > >carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even > got > >my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it > >can’t get much easier. > >> I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they > >sent > >> me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He > said > >> he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we > >order > >> one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be > >close > >> to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that > >deal > >> will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has > been > >> around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > >> I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 > passenger > >> Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is > a > >> quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > >> Anyone else switch ?
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The only thing I don’t like about my 99 Tohoe is the outdated styling and the black paint.. Never again am I getting black!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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I could have paid cash, but why ? the stock market is the best place to keep money !
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Undercoating/Rustproofing, this is performed at the > Ford plant. > "Commercial Grade Stain Protector", a $180.00 > can of Scotchguard! > Your’e carrying paper on this car? Then you cannot afford it. > Sorry but I listened to my Dad. > Hey, Buy.Com and Palm Computers go public in a few days, > where are you going to be? > Yupporamma! > David >I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less than >72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust proofing >to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on the >carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even got >my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it >can’t get much easier. >> I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they >sent >> me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said >> he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we >order >> one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be >close >> to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that >deal >> will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been >> around and Chevy is late out of the gate. >> I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger >> Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a >> quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. >> Anyone else switch ?
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Well then, you just got the quickest deal on the slowest, ugliest pile of crap you will ever own. Congrats!!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less than > 72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust proofing > to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on the > carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even got > my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it > can’t get much easier. > I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they > sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we > order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be > close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that > deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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Just silly. First, the guy who states below that you can’t afford the vehicle because you have to finance it is financially ignorant. Paying cash is stupid. Even if I had $40,000 cash to buy a vehicle, I wouldn’t spend that much in liquid assets. You never know when you may need it and if you invest wisely you will make more with your cash than you’re spending on interest charges. His second point was that environmental packages are a waste of money. There is some undercoating at the factory, even paint protection and often scotchguarding. However, the aftermarket packages include warranties (some lifetime, others five years). Before anyone says it, I know the manufacurers have attractive SOUNDING warranties, but they only guard against manufacurer’s defect. i.e. they don’t guard against salt, acid rain, koolaid, birdshit, etc. So the investment is as good as auto insurance. Regarding the original post, I have problems here too. You’re asking people if they "switched" when the new Tahoe’s and Burbs aren’t even out yet. Asking sticker price for a very highly demanded vehicle is and should be acceptable. That’s what free market society is all about. If dealers sold all cars around invoice they would not make enough money to justify staying in business, so they have to sell one or two big profit vehicles to make up for all of the dot.com short deals. Chevy has proven time and again that they make a better feeling better quality vehicle than Ford. I can list 20 reasons to buy a Tahoe over an expedition but won’t. You consider the dealers profit more important than your own satisfaction, and that’s what is wrong with dot.com purchases. Just my $.02 Ken
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Undercoating/Rustproofing, this is performed at the > Ford plant. > "Commercial Grade Stain Protector", a $180.00 > can of Scotchguard! > Your’e carrying paper on this car? Then you cannot afford it. > Sorry but I listened to my Dad. > Hey, Buy.Com and Palm Computers go public in a few days, > where are you going to be? > Yupporamma! > David >I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less than >72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust proofing >to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on the >carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even got >my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it >can’t get much easier. >> I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they >sent >> me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said >> he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we >order >> one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be >close >> to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that >deal >> will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been >> around and Chevy is late out of the gate. >> I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger >> Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a >> quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. >> Anyone else switch ?
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I thought this was a Chevy ng????? Expedition what??
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Undercoating/Rustproofing, this is performed at the Ford plant. "Commercial Grade Stain Protector", a $180.00 can of Scotchguard! Your’e carrying paper on this car? Then you cannot afford it. Sorry but I listened to my Dad. Hey, Buy.Com and Palm Computers go public in a few days, where are you going to be? Yupporamma! David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less than >72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust proofing >to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on the >carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even got >my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it >can’t get much easier. > I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they >sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we >order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be >close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that >deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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I’m picking up the expedition today. quickest deal I ever did. less than 72 hrs from test drive to delivery. I bought the undercoating/rust proofing to quiet the vehicle down, plus the commercial grade stain protection on the carpet and seats (2 kids), and a 100,000 service contract too. I even got my loan approved from ford on the internet in less than 10 minutes. it can’t get much easier.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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lol
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No, but I have taught myself to vomit on cue, nearly two > yards. Fords? Weird feel, ride, steerability. > David >I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent >me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said >he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order >one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close >to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal >will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been >around and Chevy is late out of the gate. >I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger >Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a >quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. >Anyone else switch ?
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No, but I have taught myself to vomit on cue, nearly two yards. Fords? Weird feel, ride, steerability. David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent >me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said >he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order >one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close >to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal >will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been >around and Chevy is late out of the gate. >I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger >Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a >quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. >Anyone else switch ?
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from what i’ve heard, dealers have to start paying interest to the parent company (GM, Ford, etc.) if a vehicle sits on their lot for more than a period of a few months w/o being sold. if this is true, then the ‘99 leftover could be costing your dealer money for every day it sits there. try offering him less than invoice. i have no experience w/ testing out this theory, but i’ve heard from some people that it works. give it a shot. -rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent >me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said >he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order >one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close >to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal >will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been >around and Chevy is late out of the gate. >I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger >Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a >quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. >Anyone else switch ?
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I would buy used before I payed Invoice anything on a truck regardless of make or model. The Dealer clearly can sell all he can get of the Tahoe’s and so doesn’t need to compete. Ford must be making enough expaditions to meet demand. I don’t know whish is ‘better’ by any measure. says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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The Used thing notwithstanding, I think the value is still there in the Tahoe, just because it shouldn’t depreciate as fast as the Ford, even though you may be paying more for it. I would try a few other dealers, even some GMC guys just to see if this MSRP thing is widespread. If it is, wait a couple of months…. jed
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would buy used before I payed Invoice anything on a truck regardless of > make or model. The Dealer clearly can sell all he can get of the Tahoe’s > and so doesn’t need to compete. > Ford must be making enough expaditions to meet demand. I don’t know > whish is ‘better’ by any measure. > says… > I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent > me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said > he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order > one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close > to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal > will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been > around and Chevy is late out of the gate. > I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger > Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a > quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. > Anyone else switch ?
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I used Autobytel to get my bet price on a 2000 Tahoe. The dealer they sent me to said he wouldn’t have any in until end of Jan , or mid feb. He said he would sell one to me for LIST STICKER PRICE ! I said how about we order one for me, and he said he could take a little bit off, but it will be close to sticker. Then he offered me a 99 leftover LT for invoice, but that deal will depreciate before I drive off the lot. the 2000 competition has been around and Chevy is late out of the gate. I ended up across the street at a ford dealer and agreed to a 9 passenger Expedition at $400 over dealer invoice. My gut feeling is the Tahoe is a quieter vehicle, but I think the ford is a better value. Anyone else switch ?
