Saw a Colorado today

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I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the sticker was 27,000 and change…

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> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

blech….

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So that means in about 7 years I might buy one.  never seen the need to buy a purdy truck when I am just gonna use and abuse it.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change… > blech….

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What is a Colorado? I used to live in one…..

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> So that means in about 7 years I might buy one.  never seen the need to buy > a purdy truck when I am just gonna use and abuse it. > > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > > sticker was 27,000 and change… > blech….

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I would never buy a new truck even if I did have the money. Wait and get one broken in and save a lot. My next truck will be a 8-10 year old 3/4 ton chevy in good condition for a good price which I plan to start looking around for next year. Its not considered a real truck until its at least 5 years old.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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New Chevy mid-size pickup.  The GMC variant is called the Canyon. KB

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What is a Colorado? I used to live in one….. > So that means in about 7 years I might buy one.  never seen the need to > buy > a purdy truck when I am just gonna use and abuse it. > > > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > > > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > > > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > > > sticker was 27,000 and change… > > blech….

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> I would never buy a new truck even if I did have the money. Wait and get one > broken in and save a lot. My next truck will be a 8-10 year old 3/4 ton > chevy in good condition for a good price which I plan to start looking > around for next year. Its not considered a real truck until its at least 5 > years old.

Hell yeah!  "Youngest" one I’ve ever owned and driven is 10 yrs of age; wifey has a newer one but women are different than men when it comes to Doc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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I’m not trying to be rude, but was it really a "Z71 Colorado"? I thought Z71 was reserved for the full size trucks. Tony

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> I would never buy a new truck even if I did have the money. Wait and get one > broken in and save a lot. My next truck will be a 8-10 year old 3/4 ton > chevy in good condition for a good price which I plan to start looking > around for next year. Its not considered a real truck until its at least 5 > years old.

Makes one wonder what kind of women interest you … VLJ —

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It is and get this you an buy a Z71 2 wheel drive as well

> I’m not trying to be rude, but was it really a "Z71 Colorado"? I thought > Z71 was reserved for the full size trucks. > Tony

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> I would never buy a new truck even if I did have the money. Wait and get > one broken in and save a lot. My next truck will be a 8-10 year old 3/4 > ton chevy in good condition for a good price which I plan to start looking > around for next year. Its not considered a real truck until its at least 5 > years old.

In 2001 when I was shopping the used truck prices were way too high. I did not consider "bigger" was better. I wanted something reliable which would haul me and my dirtbike. The A/C had to work. It had to go 70 MPH with the A/C on. After several months the $3,000 rebate offered on 4 cyl 5 speed Sonoma looked awfully darn good. Got just about the cheapest Sonoma made that year. Long bed was essentially the only upgrade. I’d wish for less wind noise around the doors but otherwise it fills the task very well. If it has carpeting on the floor then its an SUV, not a truck.

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>I’m not trying to be rude, but was it really a "Z71 Colorado"? I thought >Z71 was reserved for the full size trucks. >Tony

It’s an oof-road suspension package.  Apparently GM is extending it across the pickup truck line, dunno if it’ll make it to the Trailblazers like it has to the Tahoe/Suburban.  Didn’t know it was offered on the 2WD, funny how they don’t make it 4WD only…

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>I’m not trying to be rude, but was it really a "Z71 Colorado"? I thought >Z71 was reserved for the full size trucks. >Tony > It’s an oof-road suspension package.  Apparently GM is extending it > across the pickup truck line, dunno if it’ll make it to the > Trailblazers like it has to the Tahoe/Suburban.  Didn’t know it was > offered on the 2WD, funny how they don’t make it 4WD only…

Comon, everyone lifts their 2WD truck and puts super swampers on them these days, not like they will ever take them offroad. Before I got my monte I was considering getting the Lifted 4 door S-10 model, the one that kinda looks like a baby avalanche, but the bed was too short to be useful for when I would need a truck.

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> If it has carpeting on the floor then its an SUV, not a truck.

but what if its shag carpet held in place with drywall screws?

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then ya might be a true redneck

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If it has carpeting on the floor then its an SUV, not a truck. > but what if its shag carpet held in place with drywall screws?

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Hmmm, thats not much less than a Silverado, I’d rather go full size! V.B.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I would never buy a new truck even if I did have the money. Wait and get >one broken in and save a lot. My next truck will be a 8-10 year old 3/4 >ton chevy in good condition for a good price which I plan to start looking >around for next year. Its not considered a real truck until its at least 5 >years old. > In 2001 when I was shopping the used truck prices were way too high. I did > not consider "bigger" was better. I wanted something reliable which would > haul me and my dirtbike. The A/C had to work. It had to go 70 MPH with the > A/C on. After several months the $3,000 rebate offered on 4 cyl 5 speed > Sonoma looked awfully darn good. > Got just about the cheapest Sonoma made that year. Long bed was > essentially the only upgrade. I’d wish for less wind noise around the > doors but otherwise it fills the task very well. > If it has carpeting on the floor then its an SUV, not a truck.

Hey, you can put a SBC in the back of my 86 S15 Jimmy 4×4! The hardest part was moving it forward after lowering it off the hoist and trying not to snap off the tailgate. You can strap a 28′ extension ladder to the roof. It has enough rust so you can change the rear shocks without a jack.

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Hi! Nice truck…the color fits the location. But who needs a Duramax? I don’t…yet! http://greyghost.dyndns.org/the_rig/bigrig.JPG http://greyghost.dyndns.org/the_rig/two-rigs.JPG

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My next truck will be a 8-10 year old 3/4 ton >chevy in good condition for a good price which I plan to start looking > around for next year. > Where you going to find a 8-year old DuraMax? <grin> > 73, Hans

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> > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change… > blech….

Agreed (with the "blech").  Damn these things are ugly.  $27,000 and looks like shit.  Yeah, makes me want to go right and sign up. No disrespect, I realize we all like different things.  I just keep thinking how great Chevy trucks used to look and how disappointed I am in what they’re producing today.  I do hope that they turn out to be really good vehicles to fight off the Toyotas and Nissans. Denny

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> I just keep > thinking how great Chevy trucks used to look and how disappointed I am > in what they’re producing today.  I do hope that they turn out to be > really good vehicles to fight off the Toyotas and Nissans.

Well the Toyota & Nissan trucks are pretty high on the ugly scale too.  Especially ugly were the Toyotas of a couple years ago with the Buick-rip off grill.  The Nissan with the integrated bumper/grill just looks dumb. Jap trucks have a long way to go to even get close to American ones.

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I was looking at new trucks a couple of weeks ago and had it narrowed down to a GMC Sierra or a Canyon. I drove a Canyon and quickly decided on the Sierra. The truck was cheaply furnished inside and even the salesman told me the sales staff were disappointed in the new mid-size GM trucks. Incidentally, the Canyon not only has a twin (Chevy Colorado), but a triplet (Isuzu D-Max). The D-Max apparently was part of a conceptual team project that spun off the three vehicles, or so I’ve heard. Here’s a pic of the D-Max if you’re interested. http://www.isuzu.co.jp/world/product/dmax/index.html Anyway, I love my Sierra SLT Extended Cab.

I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the sticker was 27,000 and change…

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The D-max is a commercial truck. It has a smaller Diesel engine and a stripped interior.  it was designed and marketed as a work truck, but a "toy" like most trucks here in Southern CA.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was looking at new trucks a couple of weeks ago and had it narrowed > down to a GMC Sierra or a Canyon. I drove a Canyon and quickly decided > on the Sierra. The truck was cheaply furnished inside and even the > salesman told me the sales staff were disappointed in the new mid-size > GM trucks. Incidentally, the Canyon not only has a twin (Chevy > Colorado), but a triplet (Isuzu D-Max). The D-Max apparently was part of > a conceptual team project that spun off the three vehicles, or so I’ve > heard. Here’s a pic of the D-Max if you’re interested. > http://www.isuzu.co.jp/world/product/dmax/index.html > Anyway, I love my Sierra SLT Extended Cab. > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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If you’re interested, here is where I learned about the D-Max and its similarity to the GM twins: http://www.cheersandgears.com/boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9711

The D-max is a commercial truck. It has a smaller Diesel engine and a stripped interior.  it was designed and marketed as a work truck, but a "toy" like most trucks here in Southern CA.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was looking at new trucks a couple of weeks ago and had it narrowed > down to a GMC Sierra or a Canyon. I drove a Canyon and quickly decided > on the Sierra. The truck was cheaply furnished inside and even the > salesman told me the sales staff were disappointed in the new mid-size > GM trucks. Incidentally, the Canyon not only has a twin (Chevy > Colorado), but a triplet (Isuzu D-Max). The D-Max apparently was part of > a conceptual team project that spun off the three vehicles, or so I’ve > heard. Here’s a pic of the D-Max if you’re interested. > http://www.isuzu.co.jp/world/product/dmax/index.html > Anyway, I love my Sierra SLT Extended Cab. > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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I don’t know, I like the looks of the D-max better then the Colorado. I really like the engine options fro the D-Max. They should bring it to the US, I would get one… IF it was not way over priced like the Colorado. What ever happened to having simple trucks?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you’re interested, here is where I learned about the D-Max and its > similarity to the GM twins: > http://www.cheersandgears.com/boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9711 > The D-max is a commercial truck. It has a smaller Diesel engine and a > stripped interior.  it was designed and marketed as a work truck, but a > "toy" like most trucks here in Southern CA. > I was looking at new trucks a couple of weeks ago and had it narrowed > down to a GMC Sierra or a Canyon. I drove a Canyon and quickly decided > on the Sierra. The truck was cheaply furnished inside and even the > salesman told me the sales staff were disappointed in the new mid-size > GM trucks. Incidentally, the Canyon not only has a twin (Chevy > Colorado), but a triplet (Isuzu D-Max). The D-Max apparently was part > of > a conceptual team project that spun off the three vehicles, or so I’ve > heard. Here’s a pic of the D-Max if you’re interested. > http://www.isuzu.co.jp/world/product/dmax/index.html > Anyway, I love my Sierra SLT Extended Cab. > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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They’re still out there. But the engines and computerized systems are pervasive. Just opening the hood on my new truck is frightening. I don’t know a thing about what’s under the hood, and I used to tune up and replace a few parts on my old ‘78, until resuscitating it was going to require an engine transplant. That’s when I knew it was time to find a replacement or start doing some very long walks.  I hope this one runs as long as the one it replaced. If it does, I’ll either be retired or …..!

I don’t know, I like the looks of the D-max better then the Colorado. I really like the engine options fro the D-Max. They should bring it to the US, I would get one… IF it was not way over priced like the Colorado. What ever happened to having simple trucks?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you’re interested, here is where I learned about the D-Max and its > similarity to the GM twins: > http://www.cheersandgears.com/boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9711 > The D-max is a commercial truck. It has a smaller Diesel engine and a > stripped interior.  it was designed and marketed as a work truck, but a > "toy" like most trucks here in Southern CA. > I was looking at new trucks a couple of weeks ago and had it narrowed > down to a GMC Sierra or a Canyon. I drove a Canyon and quickly decided > on the Sierra. The truck was cheaply furnished inside and even the > salesman told me the sales staff were disappointed in the new mid-size > GM trucks. Incidentally, the Canyon not only has a twin (Chevy > Colorado), but a triplet (Isuzu D-Max). The D-Max apparently was part > of > a conceptual team project that spun off the three vehicles, or so I’ve > heard. Here’s a pic of the D-Max if you’re interested. > http://www.isuzu.co.jp/world/product/dmax/index.html > Anyway, I love my Sierra SLT Extended Cab. > I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

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ok, more for it in Canada, then… thanks!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Live mid-market rates as of 2003.12.10 16:34:40 GMT. >41,950.00 CAD Canada Dollars  = 32,071.31 USD United States Dollars >1 CAD = 0.764513 USD                1 USD = 1.30802 CAD >>>I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was >>>a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk >>>down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the >>>sticker was 27,000 and change… >>It’s quotes like that, that make me wish I was in America. Sticker in Canada >>for 4wd plain Jane is starting is $41,950. > well, you are in America… just not in the states… *g* > what is the US equivalent to $41, 950 in CD?

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Never mind. There’s your proper exchange rate. Maybe I should read ALL the posts before I answer……. :>)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was >> a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk >> down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the >> sticker was 27,000 and change… >It’s quotes like that, that make me wish I was in America. Sticker in Canada >for 4wd plain Jane is starting is $41,950. > well, you are in America… just not in the states… *g* > what is the US equivalent to $41, 950 in CD?

   ($41,950) x (.65)= $27,267.50 That’s guessing the exchange rate is 65cents.

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Live mid-market rates as of 2003.12.10 16:34:40 GMT. 41,950.00 CAD Canada Dollars  = 32,071.31 USD United States Dollars 1 CAD = 0.764513 USD            1 USD = 1.30802 CAD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was >>a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk >>down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the >>sticker was 27,000 and change… >It’s quotes like that, that make me wish I was in America. Sticker in Canada >for 4wd plain Jane is starting is $41,950. > well, you are in America… just not in the states… *g* > what is the US equivalent to $41, 950 in CD?

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I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the sticker was 27,000 and change…

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> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change…

It’s quotes like that, that make me wish I was in America. Sticker in Canada for 4wd plain Jane is starting is $41,950.

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>> I can’t wait until I can afoord one, looks like a NICE truck.  It was > a blue Z71, with body colored flares., I REALLY wish I could plunk > down that kind of money.  Was at the local dealer, price on the > sticker was 27,000 and change… >It’s quotes like that, that make me wish I was in America. Sticker in Canada >for 4wd plain Jane is starting is $41,950.

well, you are in America… just not in the states… *g* what is the US equivalent to $41, 950 in CD?

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Water in the floor? (ATTN Harry)

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Now, are you talking about the black cowl cover (has holes in it for the windshield wipers) the cover that goes in it from the windshield, or the black pastic that sits atop of air intake for the vent system?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK.  That gives me a good plan of attack.  I’ll let you know how this turns > out.  Thanks again. > Remove the cowl cover.  Clean the two drain holes at the sides of the cowl > then clean the entire cowl area. > Remove and apply silicone to the air intake thing then reinstall it. > I think there are three screws… or was it six? > Silicone the upper (winshield) edge of the cowl cover then reinstall.

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> Yup, I figured it was coming from the air intake also … But I sealed the > body cracks (where the intake goes into the passenger compartment from the > cowl area .. mine still leaks. You think it’s the cowl itself? My Air intake > has a black cover over it..

Yes.  The cowl was originally sealed to the windshield with some sort of black gooey stuff.  The cowl cover is supposed to let windshield water run over the cowl and then drain.  If it runs under the cowl, it runs directly into the air intake and fills up the glove box drawer.

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Ah I see. It doesn’t fill up my glove box… I get water in the drivers floor board. I’ll go take some pictures tomorrow, and post em.. it’s an interesting problem.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yup, I figured it was coming from the air intake also … But I sealed the > body cracks (where the intake goes into the passenger compartment from the > cowl area .. mine still leaks. You think it’s the cowl itself? My Air intake > has a black cover over it.. > Yes.  The cowl was originally sealed to the windshield with some sort > of black gooey stuff.  The cowl cover is supposed to let windshield > water run over the cowl and then drain.  If it runs under the cowl, > it runs directly into the air intake and fills up the glove box drawer.

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> > Yes.  The cowl was originally sealed to the windshield with some sort > of black gooey stuff.  The cowl cover is supposed to let windshield > water run over the cowl and then drain.  If it runs under the cowl, > it runs directly into the air intake and fills up the glove box drawer.

On my car, water ran under the 6 foot long cowl cover and into the air intake.  From there it ran to various places inside dash area of the car.  I took most of the dash out a couple of years ago and saw rust trails all over the inside firewall where the water ran. Dealer wanted $262 for a new cowl cover.  I superglued the pieces back together and siliconed the cover to the windshield.  It worked.

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> Ah I see. It doesn’t fill up my glove box… I get water in the drivers > floor board. I’ll go take some pictures tomorrow, and post em.. it’s an > interesting problem.

Another possible explination is the heater core is leaking. It’s pretty easy to tell if that "water" has antifreeze in it, though.

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Yeah, The water isn’t antifreeze. I’ve been through a leaking heater core before .. this isn’t the case.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ah I see. It doesn’t fill up my glove box… I get water in the drivers > floor board. I’ll go take some pictures tomorrow, and post em.. it’s an > interesting problem. > Another possible explination is the heater core is leaking. It’s pretty > easy to tell if that "water" has antifreeze in it, though.

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Ditto on my little machine.  It’s definitely NOT anti-freeze. That’s interesting about how water goes hither and yon once it gets inside the dash.  Your description certainly matches my symptoms exactly.  It’s a little nippy and dark out there right now.  Probably wait till the weekend to attack.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yeah, The water isn’t antifreeze. I’ve been through a leaking heater core > before .. this isn’t the case. > > Ah I see. It doesn’t fill up my glove box… I get water in the drivers > > floor board. I’ll go take some pictures tomorrow, and post em.. it’s an > > interesting problem. > Another possible explination is the heater core is leaking. It’s pretty > easy to tell if that "water" has antifreeze in it, though.

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Well, I actually took my car to the shop for another non-related problem. While they had it, I had them look for the leak (My mechanic has a 1 year parts & labor warranty so I figured what the hell). He ended up sealing the body again from outside and underneath. Leak gone.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ditto on my little machine.  It’s definitely NOT anti-freeze. > That’s interesting about how water goes hither and yon once it gets inside > the dash.  Your description certainly matches my symptoms exactly.  It’s a > little nippy and dark out there right now.  Probably wait till the weekend > to attack. > Yeah, The water isn’t antifreeze. I’ve been through a leaking heater core > before .. this isn’t the case. > > > Ah I see. It doesn’t fill up my glove box… I get water in the > drivers > > > floor board. I’ll go take some pictures tomorrow, and post em.. it’s > an > > > interesting problem. > > Another possible explination is the heater core is leaking. It’s pretty > > easy to tell if that "water" has antifreeze in it, though.

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> OK.  That gives me a good plan of attack.  I’ll let you know how this turns > out.  Thanks again.

Remove the cowl cover.  Clean the two drain holes at the sides of the cowl then clean the entire cowl area. Remove and apply silicone to the air intake thing then reinstall it. I think there are three screws… or was it six? Silicone the upper (winshield) edge of the cowl cover then reinstall.

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Yup, I figured it was coming from the air intake also … But I sealed the body cracks (where the intake goes into the passenger compartment from the cowl area .. mine still leaks. You think it’s the cowl itself? My Air intake has a black cover over it..

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Please let me jump in on this discussion.  My daughter’s ‘92 Grand Am has a > "water on the floor" problem also, mainly on the driver’s side.  It also > gets water in the pull-out drawer on the passenger’s side of the dash. My > suspicions are that the water is entering when the car is being driven in a > fairly heavy rain storm.  It doesn’t get wet when it’s just sitting out in > the rain.  Where do you think this water is coming from? > I can tell you exactly where it is comming in at: > The black plastic cowl seal is no longer sealed to the windshield. > The seal around the hvac air intake is no longer sealed. > The two drains in the cowl are plugged. > Remove the cowl cover, pour water on the windshield > and you will see that in rain, water will flow > directly into the air intake.

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> Please let me jump in on this discussion.  My daughter’s ‘92 Grand Am has a > "water on the floor" problem also, mainly on the driver’s side.  It also > gets water in the pull-out drawer on the passenger’s side of the dash.  My > suspicions are that the water is entering when the car is being driven in a > fairly heavy rain storm.  It doesn’t get wet when it’s just sitting out in > the rain.  Where do you think this water is coming from?

I can tell you exactly where it is comming in at: The black plastic cowl seal is no longer sealed to the windshield. The seal around the hvac air intake is no longer sealed. The two drains in the cowl are plugged. Remove the cowl cover, pour water on the windshield and you will see that in rain, water will flow directly into the air intake.

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OK.  That gives me a good plan of attack.  I’ll let you know how this turns out.  Thanks again.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Please let me jump in on this discussion.  My daughter’s ‘92 Grand Am has a > "water on the floor" problem also, mainly on the driver’s side.  It also > gets water in the pull-out drawer on the passenger’s side of the dash. My > suspicions are that the water is entering when the car is being driven in a > fairly heavy rain storm.  It doesn’t get wet when it’s just sitting out in > the rain.  Where do you think this water is coming from? > I can tell you exactly where it is comming in at: > The black plastic cowl seal is no longer sealed to the windshield. > The seal around the hvac air intake is no longer sealed. > The two drains in the cowl are plugged. > Remove the cowl cover, pour water on the windshield > and you will see that in rain, water will flow > directly into the air intake.

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Please let me jump in on this discussion.  My daughter’s ‘92 Grand Am has a "water on the floor" problem also, mainly on the driver’s side.  It also gets water in the pull-out drawer on the passenger’s side of the dash.  My suspicions are that the water is entering when the car is being driven in a fairly heavy rain storm.  It doesn’t get wet when it’s just sitting out in the rain.  Where do you think this water is coming from?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Could have been .. Thanks for taking the time to reply though… I’ll go > find something to seal that fucker .. even if I have to weld it. > I recommended a compound?????? > Might of been Silicone sealer. > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > ~_~_~273,437 miles_~_~_

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I remember you recommending a compound to use last year to seal that puppy up, but I don’t remember what it is now .. oh well .. memory goes with age

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good evening Mr. Cleever, > Probably best to have the GP experts answer this one. It seems to be a > comomon problem for the GP. Seems there are about 2 places in the cowl > area the water comes in . the Heater box and some other seal under the > cowl or ? > I got rid of my water leaks when I sold my 68 Le Sabre Convertible in > 1986. > Good Luck > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > ~_~_~273,437 miles_~_~_

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I recommended a compound?????? Might of been Silicone sealer. Harryface       1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE ~_~_~273,437 miles_~_~_          

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Could have been .. Thanks for taking the time to reply though… I’ll go find something to seal that fucker .. even if I have to weld it.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I recommended a compound?????? > Might of been Silicone sealer. > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > ~_~_~273,437 miles_~_~_

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Or a bad heater core.   Is it antifreeze? Had that problem on my 94 Sonoma.  Twice.  It starts with a slow leak and just gets worse from there.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> sounds like leaky hose > I have water in the floor of my 94 Grand Prix. Last year, I put RV blue > around the air inlet under the cowl and this seemed to resolve the problem > (until this year), any recommendations for a permanent fix? > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–==  Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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No it’s not antifreeze

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Or a bad heater core.   Is it antifreeze? > Had that problem on my 94 Sonoma.  Twice.  It starts with a slow leak and > just gets worse from there. > sounds like leaky hose > > I have water in the floor of my 94 Grand Prix. Last year, I put RV blue > > around the air inlet under the cowl and this seemed to resolve the > problem > > (until this year), any recommendations for a permanent fix? > > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > —–==  Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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sounds like leaky hose

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have water in the floor of my 94 Grand Prix. Last year, I put RV blue > around the air inlet under the cowl and this seemed to resolve the problem > (until this year), any recommendations for a permanent fix? > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–==  Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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Good evening Mr. Cleever, Probably best to have the GP experts answer this one. It seems to be a comomon problem for the GP. Seems there are about 2 places in the cowl area the water comes in . the Heater box and some other seal under the cowl or ? I got rid of my water leaks when I sold my 68 Le Sabre Convertible in 1986. Good Luck Harryface       1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE ~_~_~273,437 miles_~_~_          

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I have water in the floor of my 94 Grand Prix. Last year, I put RV blue around the air inlet under the cowl and this seemed to resolve the problem (until this year), any recommendations for a permanent fix? —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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Break Vibration

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My 2002 GMC Sonoma just went through that, the left front sensor was bad so the ABS would trigger on that wheel. — I just cut the cheese!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->  I have a 92 Pontiac Transport (same thing as Olds Silhouette- The Ugly Nose > vehicle).  It has 158K miles and runs like a champ.  I got the breaks rotors > and pads (front) replaced a month ago at CAR-X.  The van would ’shake and > shudder’ everytime you break and come to a stop.  So – I took it back to > CAR-X last week- he replaced and put another set of rotors. No luck. the > van still shakes as you break.  I plan on taking it back to the CAR-X guy > again next week. > I am puzzled – why this?  Do you guys think there is some other problem? > ABS turning on?

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 I have a 92 Pontiac Transport (same thing as Olds Silhouette- The Ugly Nose vehicle).  It has 158K miles and runs like a champ.  I got the breaks rotors and pads (front) replaced a month ago at CAR-X.  The van would ’shake and shudder’ everytime you break and come to a stop.  So – I took it back to CAR-X last week- he replaced and put another set of rotors. No luck.  the van still shakes as you break.  I plan on taking it back to the CAR-X guy again next week. I am puzzled – why this?  Do you guys think there is some other problem?

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Improperly torqued wheels causing the rotors to be a little cockeyed?  Just a thought, but twice in a row?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a 92 Pontiac Transport (same thing as Olds Silhouette- The Ugly Nose > vehicle).  It has 158K miles and runs like a champ.  I got the breaks rotors > and pads (front) replaced a month ago at CAR-X.  The van would ’shake and > shudder’ everytime you break and come to a stop.  So – I took it back to > CAR-X last week- he replaced and put another set of rotors. No luck.  the > van still shakes as you break.  I plan on taking it back to the CAR-X guy > again next week. > I am puzzled – why this?  Do you guys think there is some other problem?

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>  I have a 92 Pontiac Transport (same thing as Olds Silhouette- The Ugly Nose > vehicle).  It has 158K miles and runs like a champ.  I got the breaks rotors > and pads (front) replaced a month ago at CAR-X.  The van would ’shake and > shudder’ everytime you break and come to a stop.  So – I took it back to > CAR-X last week- he replaced and put another set of rotors. No luck.  the > van still shakes as you break.  I plan on taking it back to the CAR-X guy > again next week. > I am puzzled – why this?  Do you guys think there is some other problem?

ABS turning on?

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2005 Grand Am / Cavalier to get new names.

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Chicago Tribune article 6/26/03 Chevrolet confirms that its new small car will be called COBALT when it replaces the Cavalier for the 2005 model year. Chevy chose the Cobalt name because of it association with power and strength. Pontiac also says it will change the name of the Grand Am in 2005 but will not say to what.

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How’s about: Grand Marnier? They could have a big marketing deal with free booze! GW (Don’t drink and drive, drink at home.) "It’s good to yell at people and say you’re from Tennessee.  That way you’re safe" – Gary Busey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Chicago Tribune article 6/26/03 > Chevrolet confirms that its new small car will be called COBALT when it > replaces the Cavalier for the 2005 model year. Chevy chose the Cobalt > name because of it association with power and strength. > Pontiac also says it will change the name of the Grand Am in 2005 but > will not say to what.

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They are not merely name changes.  The cars are new, as well. mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Chicago Tribune article 6/26/03 > Chevrolet confirms that its new small car will be called COBALT when it > replaces the Cavalier for the 2005 model year. Chevy chose the Cobalt > name because of it association with power and strength. > Pontiac also says it will change the name of the Grand Am in 2005 but > will not say to what.

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>They are not merely name changes.  The cars are new, as well.

Thank God!! At first, i thought chevy was going to drop the cavalier altogether (as in no more compact). If they did this, Chevrolet might as well bend themselves over and rip open a new hole. The majority of their sales are through the cavalier & the malibu. What next? drop the malibu and bring back the Chevette? Or how about the Celebrity? OK. Maybe the corsica or lumina. Thank goodness they’re bringing in something new and not a remodel of the past.

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Well gm is changing a lot of things actually…. like the s10 is gonna be a colorado i think or its the sonoma one…. so like the grand am and cavalier arent gonna be the only ones to change……

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 I vote for Grand Poobah! — Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How’s about: > Grand Marnier? > They could have a big marketing deal with free booze! > GW > (Don’t drink and drive, drink at home.) > "It’s good to yell at people and say you’re from Tennessee.  That way > you’re safe" – Gary Busey > Chicago Tribune article 6/26/03 > Chevrolet confirms that its new small car will be called COBALT when it > replaces the Cavalier for the 2005 model year. Chevy chose the Cobalt > name because of it association with power and strength. > Pontiac also says it will change the name of the Grand Am in 2005 but > will not say to what.

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 I wonder if/when the Solstice will appear.  That is a car that GM needs to get to the dealer lots to compete with the small import sport coupes. — Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Chicago Tribune article 6/26/03 > Chevrolet confirms that its new small car will be called COBALT when it > replaces the Cavalier for the 2005 model year. Chevy chose the Cobalt > name because of it association with power and strength. > Pontiac also says it will change the name of the Grand Am in 2005 but > will not say to what.

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Thats GM’s problem. They have all these great concept cars and idea’s but they fart around for years and by the time the release them they’ve been left behind or someone else take their idea’s. The Cadillac Sixteen is something that really needs to be produced as its concept advertises. That would really put GM at the top of luxury cars. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->  I wonder if/when the Solstice will appear.  That is a car that GM needs to > get > to the dealer lots to compete with the small import sport coupes. > — > Rob > Chicago Tribune article 6/26/03 > Chevrolet confirms that its new small car will be called COBALT when it > replaces the Cavalier for the 2005 model year. Chevy chose the Cobalt > name because of it association with power and strength. > Pontiac also says it will change the name of the Grand Am in 2005 but > will not say to what.

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> Thats GM’s problem. They have all these great concept cars and idea’s > but they fart around for years and by the time the release them they’ve > been left behind or someone else take their idea’s. The Cadillac Sixteen > is something that really needs to be produced as its concept advertises. > That would really put GM at the top of luxury cars.

You can see that car in this mornths Motor Trend Magazine With a good bit of other concepts…

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Whatever happened to that SSR?  There’s a vehicle whose time came and went. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thats GM’s problem. They have all these great concept cars and idea’s > but they fart around for years and by the time the release them they’ve > been left behind or someone else take their idea’s….

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It wasnt the least bit pratical and the prototype was like 5000 pounds. I dunno what the price of the ssr was going to be but I’m pretty sure end the end you could of had a 3/4 ton 4×4 for the same price. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Whatever happened to that SSR?  There’s a vehicle whose time came and went. > Thats GM’s problem. They have all these great concept cars and idea’s > but they fart around for years and by the time the release them they’ve > been left behind or someone else take their idea’s….

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It’s out this fall.

| Whatever happened to that SSR?  There’s a vehicle whose time came and went. | | > Thats GM’s problem. They have all these great concept cars and idea’s | > but they fart around for years and by the time the release them they’ve | > been left behind or someone else take their idea’s…. | |

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Sonoma failing NoX test

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Most common cause is the egr system, inop or ineffective > I have a 95 GMC Sonoma and the thing is failing the NoX pollution test > at 25 mph. > Any ideas what would be the cause at this speed and not at 15 mph? > Omar >—–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– >http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >—–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

Also could be temperature… my 87 Regal needed a new water pump to pass the NOx test in Ontario.  Check the thermostat, sensors, etc. to make sure that the cyl temp is below  (I think) 500F, where serious NOx starts to form Vuarra 1987 Buick Regal (RWD for highway cruising in comfort) 1997 Dodge Neon (FWD for farting around the city)

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I have a 95 GMC Sonoma and the thing is failing the NoX pollution test at 25 mph. Any ideas what would be the cause at this speed and not at 15 mph? Omar

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Most common cause is the egr system, inop or ineffective > I have a 95 GMC Sonoma and the thing is failing the NoX pollution test > at 25 mph. > Any ideas what would be the cause at this speed and not at 15 mph? > Omar

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Cars that have graced our driveway since the 50's.

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The car is a great runner. Just finished a resto on her. Frame on but I was able to change all but 2 of the body mounts. Both interior and exterior were fully restored. Had my rally guages restored by Precision Pontiac. Pricey but worth it. They literally look as if I bought a new set from Pontiac. Car has a 4-speed and a 3.55 posi and a fresh 400ci engine which makes it a real kick to drive. Jeff Foglietta http://www.goodfellascarclub.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Had a 67 GTO (red like yours) back in the early 70’s.  Loved that car!! > Drove it over 160,000 miles…original engine and tranny (Hurst "dual-gate" > automatic).  Didn’t burn oil…great car!! > OK here we go, in cronological order…. My cars since 1975 when I got > my license to shred pavement. > 1975 -1989 > 66 Pontiac GTO (Silver) > 66 Pontiac GTO Convertible (Red/White) > 64 Pontiac Tempest > 66 Pontiac GTO (Blue) > 66 Pontiac GTO (Black) > 68 Pontiac Firebird > 77 MGB > 80 Honda Civic ( Ouch!!! ) > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula > 65 Pontiac GTO > 75 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 > 87 Mazda B2600 4×4 > 67 Pontiac GTO Ragtop (Gold/White) > 1989 – Got married > 1989 – today > 68 Ford Mustang > 70 Chevrolet Nova > 89 Pontiac Sunbird (bought new, 240K Miles on her and still runs like > a baby) > 92 Pontiac Bonneville > 91 Chevrolet Cavalier > 95 Pontiac Grand Prix > 67 Pontiac GTO (Red) > 03 Chevrolet Impala > Ahhh, the memories! > Thanks, > Jeff Foglietta > www.goodfellascarclub.org > > 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > > 55 Buick Century 2 door > > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > > 67 Buick LeSabre. > > 69 Buick Riviera. > > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > > 74 Buick Riviera > > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > > 80 Chevy Z-28. > > 83 Chevy Z 28. > > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > > 99 Dodge Durango. > > 72 Buick Skylark. > > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > > 87 Ford F 150. > > 80 Chevy Impala > > 91 Chevy S-10 > > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > > 02 Chevy Silverado > > 73 Chevy Impala. > > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > > ups had 8 foot beds > > Harryface > > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > > The 1/4 million mile car.

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1971 Chevy Impala 4 door. 1980 Pontiac Sunbird 1980 Chevy Chevette 1971 Chevy Caprice Two Door 1984 Chevy Celebrity 1979 Olds Cutlass Supreme 1964 Dodge Dart 1978 Buick Lesabre 1988 Chevy Silverado 1981 Toyota Corolla 1986 Dodge Reliant 1978 Dodge Diplomat 1987 Pontiac Bonnivelle 1994 Chevy S-10 1973 Cadillac Coupe DeVille 1992 Mercury Marquis 1973 Ford Mustang 1991 Volvo 240 1980 Pontiac Phoneix 1976 Dastun 710 1994 Volvo 940 1986 Jeep Comanche 1981 Chevy El Camino 1997 Chevy Blazer 1997 Toyota Tacoma 1992 Buick Roadmaster 1986 Chevy Caprice 1986 Chevy Silverado 1999 Toyota Tacoma 1995 Toyota Avalon These are not in order But what I have now 1973 Cadillac Coupe DeVille 1986 Chevy Caprice 1992 Buick Roadmaster 1981 Chevy El Camino 1999 Toyota Tacoma 1995 Toyota Avalon 2001 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic Jake

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Had a 67 GTO (red like yours) back in the early 70’s.  Loved that car!! Drove it over 160,000 miles…original engine and tranny (Hurst "dual-gate" automatic).  Didn’t burn oil…great car!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK here we go, in cronological order…. My cars since 1975 when I got > my license to shred pavement. > 1975 -1989 > 66 Pontiac GTO (Silver) > 66 Pontiac GTO Convertible (Red/White) > 64 Pontiac Tempest > 66 Pontiac GTO (Blue) > 66 Pontiac GTO (Black) > 68 Pontiac Firebird > 77 MGB > 80 Honda Civic ( Ouch!!! ) > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula > 65 Pontiac GTO > 75 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 > 87 Mazda B2600 4×4 > 67 Pontiac GTO Ragtop (Gold/White) > 1989 – Got married > 1989 – today > 68 Ford Mustang > 70 Chevrolet Nova > 89 Pontiac Sunbird (bought new, 240K Miles on her and still runs like > a baby) > 92 Pontiac Bonneville > 91 Chevrolet Cavalier > 95 Pontiac Grand Prix > 67 Pontiac GTO (Red) > 03 Chevrolet Impala > Ahhh, the memories! > Thanks, > Jeff Foglietta > www.goodfellascarclub.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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Gee, my list is short 88 S-10 Still have but not driving, too many miles to make it worth selling but too good to get rid of 84 Ford tempo.  Wife had when we got married, it was on its third engine and second transmission and probablly second everything else.  Sold it for $400 92 Plemon Voyager.  Caught a dealer at closing time and talked them up to giving $1000 on it for a trade in because he wanted to leave 2000 S-10 2001 Impala

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK here we go, in cronological order…. My cars since 1975 when I got > my license to shred pavement. > 1975 -1989 > 66 Pontiac GTO (Silver) > 66 Pontiac GTO Convertible (Red/White) > 64 Pontiac Tempest > 66 Pontiac GTO (Blue) > 66 Pontiac GTO (Black) > 68 Pontiac Firebird > 77 MGB > 80 Honda Civic ( Ouch!!! ) > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula > 65 Pontiac GTO > 75 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 > 87 Mazda B2600 4×4 > 67 Pontiac GTO Ragtop (Gold/White) > 1989 – Got married > 1989 – today > 68 Ford Mustang > 70 Chevrolet Nova > 89 Pontiac Sunbird (bought new, 240K Miles on her and still runs like > a baby) > 92 Pontiac Bonneville > 91 Chevrolet Cavalier > 95 Pontiac Grand Prix > 67 Pontiac GTO (Red) > 03 Chevrolet Impala > Ahhh, the memories! > Thanks, > Jeff Foglietta > www.goodfellascarclub.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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OK here we go, in cronological order…. My cars since 1975 when I got my license to shred pavement. 1975 -1989 66 Pontiac GTO (Silver) 66 Pontiac GTO Convertible (Red/White) 64 Pontiac Tempest 66 Pontiac GTO (Blue) 66 Pontiac GTO (Black) 68 Pontiac Firebird 77 MGB 80 Honda Civic ( Ouch!!! ) 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula 65 Pontiac GTO 75 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 87 Mazda B2600 4×4 67 Pontiac GTO Ragtop (Gold/White) 1989 – Got married 1989 – today 68 Ford Mustang 70 Chevrolet Nova 89 Pontiac Sunbird (bought new, 240K Miles on her and still runs like a baby) 92 Pontiac Bonneville 91 Chevrolet Cavalier 95 Pontiac Grand Prix 67 Pontiac GTO (Red) 03 Chevrolet Impala Ahhh, the memories! Thanks, Jeff Foglietta www.goodfellascarclub.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface       > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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56 Chevy 2dr 210 Wagon 62 Chevy 4dr Biscayne 68 Chevy Camaro Z/28 62 Dodge Wagon 72 AMC 2dr Hornet-X 74 AMC 4dr Hornet 74 Chevy Corvette Convertible 68 Rambler 2dr American 68 Plymouth 4dr Fury 75 Plymouth 4dr Valiant 80 Ford F-150 Pick up 91 GMC Sonoma long bed 74 Chevy 2dr Nova (350 hobby car) 93 Ford Thunderbird LX 03 GMC Envoy SLT (standard wheelbase)             Ed & Ro from Philly

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I’m fairly new at this so here’s my list: 1987 Pontiac Bonneville 1998 Hyundai Accent 1989 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale I’m still working on it…….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 52 Chevy Deluxe > 57 Chevy Belaire > 60 Ford pickup > 62 Ford Fairlane > 66 Chevy Impala w/ 283 > 66 Chevy Caprice Coupe 396 cid (wish I still had it) > 68 Chevy Impala SS427 coupe (big block) > 68 Chevy Impala coupe w/ 427 small block > 77 Chevy Impala Coupe > 77  Chevy 3/4 ton 4×4 pickup > 77 AMC Pacer wagon (great car, lousy handling) > 80 Dasun 200sx coupe > 85 Chevy Celebrity w/ 2.5L (great car) > 90 Suburban 1500 w/ 350 (current) > 02 Chevy Impala (current) > I would rather be exposed to the inconveninces attending too much > liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. >  ~ Thomas Jefferson ~

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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Well, let’s see: 69 Vauxhall Viva 1200 cc auto 4 banger horror show, bought new. Ditched after 1 year 70 Dodge Duster 225 cid slant 6 auto rusted out after 10 years 75 Chrysler Newport 400 cid V8 auto rusted out after 10 years 75 Ford Torino 350? cid V8 auto bought used as a second car after the Honda faded aay 80 Honda Civic 1600 cc 4 speed manual rust bucket that ate steering racks and rotted to pieces in 5 years 85 Pontiac Bonneville 350 V8 auto still going strong at 10 years when it was wiped out in a fender bender 95 Dodge Neon 2.0 litre auto (yeah, I know) pretty unreliable after third year traded it in on the Buick 97 Plymouth Neon 2.0 litre 4 speed manual still going strong 01 Buick LeSabre 3.8 litre V6 auto best car I ever had. all except the Torino were purchased new. I like to keep cars until they fall apart or start becoming too unreliable. Cheers, Indrrek Aavisto Sudbury, ontario – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Ok, I’m game. Since 1989 I’ve owned… > 69 Buick Skylark 4 door, 350, 2 speed PowerGlide (70+ in 1st gear!) > 86 Ford Escort 2 door hatchback, 1.9L, 3 speed auto (better gas mileage than > Skylark) > 91 Ford Tempo 4 door, 2.3L, 3 speed auto (my first with power everything) > 92 Pontiac Grand Am, 2.3L Quad OHC, 3 speed auto (my first brand new car) > 94 Ford Escort, 1.9L, 4 speed auto (killed by 78 Suburban) > 95 Ford Probe, 2.?L, 5 speed manual (I miss this one) > 96 Ford Ranger, 2.3L, 5 speed manual (eh, it was a truck) > 98 Dodge Neon, 2.?L, 3 speed auto (what was I thinking?) > 95 Chevrolet Lumina, 3.1L, 4 speed auto (inherited, didn’t need two cars) > 99 Buick Regal, 3.8L, 4 speed auto (finally was able to purchase a "nicer" > new car, daily driver) > 73 Ford Truck, 302, 3 speed manual (just a toy) > 84 Pontiac Fiero, 2.5L, 4 speed manual (bought as toy, needed paint and a/c, > lost interest) > 93 Mercury Cougar, 3.8L, 4 speed auto (blew headgaskets, bought from roomie > to help him out) > 96 Mercury Cougar, 4.6L, 4 speed auto (just a toy, bought recently, missed > the 93 too much) > Buick Regal is by far the nicest car and the one I’ve kept the longest since > new – four years. However, I’m really liking the "new" Cougar’s V-8 and rear > wheel drive even though it’s older than the Buick and has a few more miles > (71K). I just put the Regal up for sale. > Roger > 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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DS Yeah the Formula got hit, Right front by a guy who blew a stop sign, The impact shoved the entire front nose over to the left about 12 inches, The car spun sideways to the left and then the rear bumper wraparound of the other car hooked in the RR 1/4 panel ahead of the RR wheel and tore the 1/4 panel off  and also pulled out the bottom of the Passenger doorskin…….what a mess but it was fixed. I got a picture of it, next time my buddy scans photo’s I can have him do that one. Harryface       1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE The 1/4 million mile car.

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52 Chevy Deluxe 57 Chevy Belaire 60 Ford pickup 62 Ford Fairlane 66 Chevy Impala w/ 283 66 Chevy Caprice Coupe 396 cid (wish I still had it) 68 Chevy Impala SS427 coupe (big block) 68 Chevy Impala coupe w/ 427 small block 77 Chevy Impala Coupe 77  Chevy 3/4 ton 4×4 pickup 77 AMC Pacer wagon (great car, lousy handling) 80 Dasun 200sx coupe 85 Chevy Celebrity w/ 2.5L (great car) 90 Suburban 1500 w/ 350 (current) 02 Chevy Impala (current) I would rather be exposed to the inconveninces attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.  ~ Thomas Jefferson ~  

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Hmm, this should be interesting! I’ll just list cars that I personally have owned since my teen years, in the order in which I purchased them: 1954 Plymouth 1957 Pontiac Laurentian (Canadian model) 1961 Chev Impala SS 2 dr.H.T. (Bubble roof) 1966 Pontiac Parisienne Convertible 1971 Ford LTD – 2dr. H.T. 1974 Chev. Monte Carlo 1977 Chev Caprice – 2dr. h.t. 1974 Dodge Dart – 4 dr. sedan (ugh!) 1976 Volkswagon Rabbit (Worst car I’ve ever owned!) 1980 Chev. Caprice- 2dr.h.t. 1974 Chevrolet Vega GT 1982 Chev. Chevette 1984 Olds Delta Royale – 2dr.h.t. 1986 Dodge 600 Convertible 1963 Corvette Roadster 1984 Dodge Omni – 4 dr. (But who cares!) 1988 Buick Regal – 2dr. 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix 1992 Pontiac Grand Prix 1995 Chevrolet Lumina 1995 Chev Monte Carlo Z34 1996 Chevrolet Lumina LS – 4dr. 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GT 2001 Pontiac Bonneville 2003 Chevrolet Avalanche That’s all folks!!!

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50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door 55 Buick Century 2 door 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. 99 Lincoln Navigator. 67 Buick LeSabre. 69 Buick Riviera. 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. 74 Buick Riviera 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. 80 Chevy Z-28. 83 Chevy Z 28. 88 Lincoln Towncar. 99 Dodge Durango. 72 Buick Skylark. 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. 77 Buick Park Avenue. 87 Ford F 150. 80 Chevy Impala 91 Chevy S-10 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance 02 Chevy Silverado 73 Chevy Impala. 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. 78 Olds Holiday 88. 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick ups had 8 foot beds Harryface       1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE The 1/4 million mile car.

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Great list!!  I’ll give it a shot… 5? Studebaker "Hawk" (Packard Engine) 57 Chevy Bel-Air (Manual 3 on-the-column) 60 Chevy Impala Station Wagon     (Grandad also had the same wagon with 3-deuce carbs) 63 Chevy Corvair 65 Chevy Malibu SS 327 66 VW Karmann Ghia 67 Pontiac GTO – Hearst "Dual-Gate" auto tranny (170K Miles) 68 Chevy Impala Custom Coupe 350 4bbl. 70 Chevy Malibu 73 Chevy Vega GT 75 Ford Mustang II V6 76 Ford Granada 78 Ford LTDII 78 Chevy Malibu Sedan (Company Car) 78 Chevy Chevette 80 Chevy Cavalier Wagon (Company Car) 84 Ford Escort Wagon 87 Dodge Grand Caravan V6 (Best overall ever owned!) 89 Dodge Dakota 4×4 w/ 8′ Bed (Just died) 96 Dodge Dakota LE V8 (Just bought…replaced the 89) 97 Dodge Grand Caravan (Current) 97 Dodge Neon DOHC     (Several accidents did it in…wife raced it too much!) 00 Dodge Neon  (Current) 03 Chevy Malibu (Current) 03 Dodge Stratus V6  (Current) Not as many as you’ve got there on your list.  :-)   If we include my grandparents…on my mother’s side, we can add several 60’s vintage American Motors Ramblers and couple of Chevy’s and my father’s side all GM, Cadillacs, Chevys and Pontiacs.  My uncle still has the ‘73 Pontiac Grand-Am that my grandad last had before he died just after he bought it.  That puppy had the 455 V8 in it originally!!  He has since replaced the engine and tranny..the car still looks mostly stock though.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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>77 Pontiac Firebird Formula.

How come you haven’t sent me pics of the Formula?  Did your brother crash that one too? —  Dennis Smith                              AIM SN: Dens71TA  ICQ Pager #: 52009584              ’71 Trans Am – 455 H.O. – M21 4-speed – Cameo white/blue stripe  ’73 Trans Am – 455 – TH400 auto – Buccaneer red  ’84 Trans Am – 5.0 L – TH700R4 auto – Royal blue/silver aero  

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Ok, I’m game. Since 1989 I’ve owned… 69 Buick Skylark 4 door, 350, 2 speed PowerGlide (70+ in 1st gear!) 86 Ford Escort 2 door hatchback, 1.9L, 3 speed auto (better gas mileage than Skylark) 91 Ford Tempo 4 door, 2.3L, 3 speed auto (my first with power everything) 92 Pontiac Grand Am, 2.3L Quad OHC, 3 speed auto (my first brand new car) 94 Ford Escort, 1.9L, 4 speed auto (killed by 78 Suburban) 95 Ford Probe, 2.?L, 5 speed manual (I miss this one) 96 Ford Ranger, 2.3L, 5 speed manual (eh, it was a truck) 98 Dodge Neon, 2.?L, 3 speed auto (what was I thinking?) 95 Chevrolet Lumina, 3.1L, 4 speed auto (inherited, didn’t need two cars) 99 Buick Regal, 3.8L, 4 speed auto (finally was able to purchase a "nicer" new car, daily driver) 73 Ford Truck, 302, 3 speed manual (just a toy) 84 Pontiac Fiero, 2.5L, 4 speed manual (bought as toy, needed paint and a/c, lost interest) 93 Mercury Cougar, 3.8L, 4 speed auto (blew headgaskets, bought from roomie to help him out) 96 Mercury Cougar, 4.6L, 4 speed auto (just a toy, bought recently, missed the 93 too much) Buick Regal is by far the nicest car and the one I’ve kept the longest since new – four years. However, I’m really liking the "new" Cougar’s V-8 and rear wheel drive even though it’s older than the Buick and has a few more miles (71K). I just put the Regal up for sale. Roger

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 50 Buick Roadmaster 4 door > 55 Buick Century 2 door > 62 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick Up > 60 Buick Electra 225 4dr Hardtop > 68 Chevy 3/4 ton Stepside Pick up. > 70 Cadillac Sedan Deville. > 74 Chevy Cheyenne 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 84 Chevy Silverado 454 3/4ton Stepside. > 85 Buick LeSabre Collectors Edition. > 91 Ford F -250 XLT Lariat 460V8. > 91 Cadillac Brougham De’ Elegance. > 99 Lincoln Navigator. > 67 Buick LeSabre. > 69 Buick Riviera. > 74 Chevy Impala Wagon. > 74 Buick Riviera > 77 Pontiac Firebird Formula. > 80 Chevy Z-28. > 83 Chevy Z 28. > 88 Lincoln Towncar. > 99 Dodge Durango. > 72 Buick Skylark. > 72 Cadillac Coupe Deville. > 77 Buick Park Avenue. > 87 Ford F 150. > 80 Chevy Impala > 91 Chevy S-10 > 91 Cadillac Brougham De Elegance > 02 Chevy Silverado > 73 Chevy Impala. > 68 Buick LeSabre Conv. > 78 Olds Holiday 88. > 91 Pontiac Bonneville.( most famous 1 ) > 89 Chevy Cavalier Z 24 Conv. > Quite a few cars for five people to have over the years. All the pick > ups had 8 foot beds > Harryface > 1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE > The 1/4 million mile car.

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Chevy V6 info

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Take a 350 Chevy and cut #7 and #8 cyl’s off and you get a 4.3. Very good engine. Early models have a little vibration. Later models have a balance shaft right above the camshaft.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi group! I’m thinking of doing an engine conversion with a Chevy 4.3 V6. > I’m trying to get familiar with them, but not finding much info on the web. > I’d like to know more about the evolution of this engine (year to year > changes) and what vehicles originally came with this engine. Any typical > problems or issues? Where should I look to find this info? > Thanks! > Chris

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Hi group! I’m thinking of doing an engine conversion with a Chevy 4.3 V6. I’m trying to get familiar with them, but not finding much info on the web. I’d like to know more about the evolution of this engine (year to year changes) and what vehicles originally came with this engine. Any typical problems or issues? Where should I look to find this info? Thanks! Chris

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I assume that this is the Vortec V6? the 4.3 V6 has been available in the safari/astro vans and in other trucks like the S-10/sonoma and the jimmy/blazer SUV’s for at least the past 13 years. — Dawson Gilliland "If death is a debt we all must pay, he paid before he owed it." -Eulogy for Canada.

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Auto 4wd binding?

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thanks for replies.  it’s more noticeable / severe than a shudder at full lock, it does it all the time when in auto mode. anyone know the TSB number? do 99 K2500 suburbans with AutoTrac suffer same problems as well?  (may be trading into one soon) Trace

> Are you talking about a shudder at full lock? If so then that’s normal for > AutoTrac in auto mode.  This has been discussed on the many GM > truck and suv forums.  My 01 Tahoe has done it since new.  Somewhere on > a "new and improved" list for GM 2003 trucks/suv’s they mentioned they have > smoothed the shudder in tight turns/manuevers in auto4wd for an improved > customer experience.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me? > TIA~Trace

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This seems to be bulletin #02-04-21-005, "Vehicle Will Not Move When 4-Wheel Drive is Requested, Noise, Shudder, Poor Performance, Transmission/Transfer Case Slips, Transmission Will Not Upshift, Slips in 4-Wheel Drive (Diagnose and Repair)". It states that "Various conditions within the front differential assembly may cause the transfer case clutch to wear prematurely, thus reducing the operating efficiency of the transfer case" and cautions that "Proper diagnosis and repair must be completed or a repeat condition will occur." It is listed as applying to 99-2000 Escalade, 98-2002 S-10, Blazer, and Suburban, 2002 Avalanche, and 98-2002 GMC Sierra, Sonoma, Jimmy, Suburban, Yukon and Yukon XL. — Robert Hancock      Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> thanks for replies.  it’s more noticeable / severe than a shudder at full > lock, it does it all the time when in auto mode. > anyone know the TSB number? > do 99 K2500 suburbans with AutoTrac suffer same problems as well?  (may be > trading into one soon) > Trace > Are you talking about a shudder at full lock? If so then that’s normal for > AutoTrac in auto mode.  This has been discussed on the many GM > truck and suv forums.  My 01 Tahoe has done it since new.  Somewhere on > a "new and improved" list for GM 2003 trucks/suv’s they mentioned they > have > smoothed the shudder in tight turns/manuevers in auto4wd for an improved > customer experience. > > 99 Silverado Z71: > > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the > system is > > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto > mode. > > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto > mode? > > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe > it > > to me? > > TIA~Trace

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Trace,     I also have the auto mode for 4WD in my GMC Jimmy. The thing finds a slip situation from the wheel speed sensors. When this happens it locks you into 4WD. This is also a timed thing. It won’t shift out of 4WD, for a determined amount of time. I don’t know what that time is. This was explained to me by my friend from GMC. I no longer work there, but he keeps me up on this stuff.     This is not an exact thing. I think GM will get better at this stuff over time, but for now, when I park my truck after it was in 4WD auto, it binds also, at times.     I push the 2WD button when I park on a dry surface. If you leave it in 4WD auto, I doubt it will do any severe damage. Not for a parking maneuver. You’re moving at what?… 2mph?     4WD auto, is a good thing to tell your wife to drive in. If you know how to use 4WD, then use it as such. GMdude

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> 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me?

Can’t give you a solution for this specific car. But stop driving it around as long as the problem is not solved. You might break a shaft. Good-Luck, Erik-Jan.  http://www.fotograaf.com/trooper

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Check with your dealer I believe there is a TSB for this condition.

> 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me? > TIA~Trace

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Are you talking about a shudder at full lock? If so then that’s normal for AutoTrac in auto mode.  This has been discussed on the many GM truck and suv forums.  My 01 Tahoe has done it since new.  Somewhere on a "new and improved" list for GM 2003 trucks/suv’s they mentioned they have smoothed the shudder in tight turns/manuevers in auto4wd for an improved customer experience. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me? > TIA~Trace

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"trace"  wrote > 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me?

The auto transfer cases use a clutch pack that is modulated by the t/case shift motor.  The clutch pack operates just like any clutch pack in an auto transmission, except it is manually actuated, not hydraulically activated.  When you shift into Auto 4hi….the front axle is activated, and the encoder motor begins to modulate the clutch pack which controls how much torque is sent to the front wheels.  Anywhere from 5-100% is applied when needed. There is a new TSB out for a multitude of problems with these auto t/cases.  It may not  necessarily apply to your vehicle.  We are finding that a lot of these trucks make some weird noises when customer’s attempt to run 4hi on dry surfaces.  Pretty normal. We are also finding a lot of these trucks have problems that originate in the front diff, usually side bearings that have had too much preload applied from the factory, takes out the side bearings, you get noise and it also seems to put an undue amount of stress on the t/case clutch pack and burns it up.  The TSB basically describes how to check for a burnt clutch pack and then overhaul the front diff and t/case clutch pack as required.  An easy way to check the clutch pack (well, perhaps not easy for the DIYer) is to jack the vehicle right up (all four wheels) put it in 4hi and slowly apply the brakes a bit.  If the front wheels stop turning, and the rear wheels are still turning…chances are the clutch pack is damaged. At any rate, you might want to take it in to the dealership, especially if it’s under warranty or even just a little off warranty.  If you have a good relationship with your dealer, they may help you out. Ian

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99 Silverado Z71: the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it to me? TIA~Trace

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This seems to be bulletin #02-04-21-005, "Vehicle Will Not Move When 4-Wheel Drive is Requested, Noise, Shudder, Poor Performance, Transmission/Transfer Case Slips, Transmission Will Not Upshift, Slips in 4-Wheel Drive (Diagnose and Repair)". It states that "Various conditions within the front differential assembly may cause the transfer case clutch to wear prematurely, thus reducing the operating efficiency of the transfer case" and cautions that "Proper diagnosis and repair must be completed or a repeat condition will occur." It is listed as applying to 99-2000 Escalade, 98-2002 S-10, Blazer, and Suburban, 2002 Avalanche, and 98-2002 GMC Sierra, Sonoma, Jimmy, Suburban, Yukon and Yukon XL. — Robert Hancock      Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> thanks for replies.  it’s more noticeable / severe than a shudder at full > lock, it does it all the time when in auto mode. > anyone know the TSB number? > do 99 K2500 suburbans with AutoTrac suffer same problems as well?  (may be > trading into one soon) > Trace > Are you talking about a shudder at full lock? If so then that’s normal for > AutoTrac in auto mode.  This has been discussed on the many GM > truck and suv forums.  My 01 Tahoe has done it since new.  Somewhere on > a "new and improved" list for GM 2003 trucks/suv’s they mentioned they > have > smoothed the shudder in tight turns/manuevers in auto4wd for an improved > customer experience. > > 99 Silverado Z71: > > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the > system is > > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto > mode. > > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto > mode? > > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe > it > > to me? > > TIA~Trace

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Trace,     I also have the auto mode for 4WD in my GMC Jimmy. The thing finds a slip situation from the wheel speed sensors. When this happens it locks you into 4WD. This is also a timed thing. It won’t shift out of 4WD, for a determined amount of time. I don’t know what that time is. This was explained to me by my friend from GMC. I no longer work there, but he keeps me up on this stuff.     This is not an exact thing. I think GM will get better at this stuff over time, but for now, when I park my truck after it was in 4WD auto, it binds also, at times.     I push the 2WD button when I park on a dry surface. If you leave it in 4WD auto, I doubt it will do any severe damage. Not for a parking maneuver. You’re moving at what?… 2mph?     4WD auto, is a good thing to tell your wife to drive in. If you know how to use 4WD, then use it as such. GMdude

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thanks for replies.  it’s more noticeable / severe than a shudder at full lock, it does it all the time when in auto mode. anyone know the TSB number? do 99 K2500 suburbans with AutoTrac suffer same problems as well?  (may be trading into one soon) Trace

> Are you talking about a shudder at full lock? If so then that’s normal for > AutoTrac in auto mode.  This has been discussed on the many GM > truck and suv forums.  My 01 Tahoe has done it since new.  Somewhere on > a "new and improved" list for GM 2003 trucks/suv’s they mentioned they have > smoothed the shudder in tight turns/manuevers in auto4wd for an improved > customer experience.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me? > TIA~Trace

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Are you talking about a shudder at full lock? If so then that’s normal for AutoTrac in auto mode.  This has been discussed on the many GM truck and suv forums.  My 01 Tahoe has done it since new.  Somewhere on a "new and improved" list for GM 2003 trucks/suv’s they mentioned they have smoothed the shudder in tight turns/manuevers in auto4wd for an improved customer experience. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me? > TIA~Trace

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"trace"  wrote > 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me?

The auto transfer cases use a clutch pack that is modulated by the t/case shift motor.  The clutch pack operates just like any clutch pack in an auto transmission, except it is manually actuated, not hydraulically activated.  When you shift into Auto 4hi….the front axle is activated, and the encoder motor begins to modulate the clutch pack which controls how much torque is sent to the front wheels.  Anywhere from 5-100% is applied when needed. There is a new TSB out for a multitude of problems with these auto t/cases.  It may not  necessarily apply to your vehicle.  We are finding that a lot of these trucks make some weird noises when customer’s attempt to run 4hi on dry surfaces.  Pretty normal. We are also finding a lot of these trucks have problems that originate in the front diff, usually side bearings that have had too much preload applied from the factory, takes out the side bearings, you get noise and it also seems to put an undue amount of stress on the t/case clutch pack and burns it up.  The TSB basically describes how to check for a burnt clutch pack and then overhaul the front diff and t/case clutch pack as required.  An easy way to check the clutch pack (well, perhaps not easy for the DIYer) is to jack the vehicle right up (all four wheels) put it in 4hi and slowly apply the brakes a bit.  If the front wheels stop turning, and the rear wheels are still turning…chances are the clutch pack is damaged. At any rate, you might want to take it in to the dealership, especially if it’s under warranty or even just a little off warranty.  If you have a good relationship with your dealer, they may help you out. Ian

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Check with your dealer I believe there is a TSB for this condition.

> 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me? > TIA~Trace

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99 Silverado Z71: the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it to me? TIA~Trace

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> 99 Silverado Z71: > the drivetrain seems to bind in auto 4wd.  my understanding of the system is > that it has a center diff that should be open or limited slip in auto mode. > my truck drives like it’s in 4HI when in auto mode.  is there a locking > solenoid or something in the frontend that’s not disengaging for auto mode? > it also seems to make more noise now than I remember when in 4wd.  any > experience / advice?  anyone familiar enough with the design to describe it > to me?

Can’t give you a solution for this specific car. But stop driving it around as long as the problem is not solved. You might break a shaft. Good-Luck, Erik-Jan.  http://www.fotograaf.com/trooper

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rpm surge

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i have a 94 gmc sonoma 2wd 2.2L 5spd with 126,000 on it at idle my rpm’s will surge from 1,000 to 1,400 is this normal ?  

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The idle RPM should be no higher than 1000, so no it is not normal. Especially if it is surging. Have it looked at – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i have a 94 gmc sonoma 2wd 2.2L 5spd with 126,000 on it at idle my rpm’s > will surge from 1,000 to 1,400 is this normal ?

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Where's my light sensor for the headlights on a 95 Corsica?

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I have automatic headlights in my Corsica, they come on when it gets dark outside.  Unfortunately, the light sensor seems to be getting dirty or something as the headlights now come on when it’s just overcast.  They didn’t do that before.  Where is the sensor so I can clean it? — To email me, remove the number from my email address.

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Should be in the dash top, look thru the WS, check in the defroster grill also. By the way the sensitivity can be adjusted in the sentinel module.

> I have automatic headlights in my Corsica, they come on when it gets dark > outside.  Unfortunately, the light sensor seems to be getting dirty or > something as the headlights now come on when it’s just overcast.  They > didn’t do that before.  Where is the sensor so I can clean it? > — > To email me, remove the number from my email address.

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Thanks!  Um, what’s the sentinel module? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Should be in the dash top, look thru the WS, check in the defroster grill > also. By the way the sensitivity can be adjusted in the sentinel module. > I have automatic headlights in my Corsica, they come on when it gets dark > outside.  Unfortunately, the light sensor seems to be getting dirty or > something as the headlights now come on when it’s just overcast.  They > didn’t do that before.  Where is the sensor so I can clean it? > — > To email me, remove the number from my email address. > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Yes do tell where I can find it on my 2002 GMC Sonoma

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks!  Um, what’s the sentinel module? > Should be in the dash top, look thru the WS, check in the defroster grill > also. By the way the sensitivity can be adjusted in the sentinel module. > > I have automatic headlights in my Corsica, they come on when it gets > dark > > outside.  Unfortunately, the light sensor seems to be getting dirty or > > something as the headlights now come on when it’s just overcast.  They > > didn’t do that before.  Where is the sensor so I can clean it? > > — > > To email me, remove the number from my email address. > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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