GMC K2500 Tilt Steering
Question:
The problem is probably not in the sphere joint but the pot metal casting below it. That casting is what the screws go through that basically anchor the upper column. It is probably broken and in need of replacement. Rather extensive disassembly of the column is required. Find someone who knows how to do this and is well-versed in doing it. Unless you’ve done it before, don’t try. It’s far better to pay someone else who knows how to do it. Also, have them make sure that they do not turn or otherwise loose the relationship of the upper shaft to the lower shaft. That causes the cancelling cam under the steering wheel to not cancel the turn sigals at the right time and can cause the horn button to not be oriented correctly.
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As they say the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked. We’re not talking ’slop’ or play in the steering here. The steering wheel wobbles. If you grasp one side of the steering wheel with one hand and push _forward_ then pull _back_ (not twist or turn) the steering wheel rocks about 1/2 to 1"… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > This may be a stupid question, but, are you sure the slop is in the flex > joint? Have you looked at the other flex/vibration isolation joint down by > the steering sector? Before tearing apart your wheel, you should put a vice > grip or something on the shaft entering the steering sector and have someone > else turn the wheel to see where the play is coming from. >> You don’t need a new bearing. >> There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism together, > that loosened up. >I presume the st wheel and covers have to be pulled to get at these bolts, > correct? >> It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the parts > in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. >> Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual. >I have a Chiltons manual. The steering column breakdowns aren’t the > greatest to say the least. >> > Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 > Sierra K2500? >> > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and > covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt > must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at > once, never >> > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. >> > Any thoughts or warnings? >> > Ray L. >> > Sr. S/W Engineer >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) >> > Controls >> > Ray LaBrecque Jr. >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) >> > Controls >> > Additional Information: >> > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. >> > First NameRay >> > Version 2.1
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BULL CRAP! Just joking Gary, your probably right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >It’s the bolts that hold the tilt mechanism to the lower part of the column. >If you remove the steering wheel, turn signal mechanism, etc, you will see >two of the 3 torx-headed screws that hold it together. The third is hidden >by the pivot pin. >Remove the two you can see (with a pencil magnet), dip the threads in >loc-tite, and re-install. The 3rd one is more trouble to get to than it’s >worth. >Gary at No Bull Transmission Service >Jacksonville, IL; where Cruise Night is September 25th in 1999. >Questions Cheerfully Answered, Accuracy Not Guaranteed . >As they say the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked. >We’re not talking ’slop’ or play in the steering here. The steering >wheel wobbles. If you grasp one side of the steering wheel with one >hand and push _forward_ then pull _back_ (not twist or turn) the >steering wheel rocks about 1/2 to 1"… >> This may be a stupid question, but, are you sure the slop is in the flex >> joint? Have you looked at the other flex/vibration isolation joint down >by >> the steering sector? Before tearing apart your wheel, you should put a >vice >> grip or something on the shaft entering the steering sector and have >someone >> else turn the wheel to see where the play is coming from. >> >> You don’t need a new bearing. >> >> There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism >together, >> that loosened up. >> >I presume the st wheel and covers have to be pulled to get at these >bolts, >> correct? >> >> It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the >parts >> in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. >> >> Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual. >> >I have a Chiltons manual. The steering column breakdowns aren’t the >> greatest to say the least. >> >> > Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a >’88 >> Sierra K2500? >> >> > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel >and >> covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt >> must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all >at >> once, never >> >> > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. >> >> > Any thoughts or warnings? >> >> > Ray L. – >- >> >> > Sr. S/W Engineer >> >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) >> >> > Controls >> >> > Ray LaBrecque Jr. >> >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) >> >> > Controls >> >> > Additional Information: >> >> > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. >> >> > First NameRay >> >> > Version 2.1
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A Ha, a different problem. Sounds like the tapered spline is loose. Take off the cover (just enough to lift it so you can get a socket on the center nut), and tighten the nut in the center of the wheel. It should be at about 40 ft-lb. The nut may have been loose for a while but it sounds like the wheel just pooped off the taper. Usually you need a pulled to get it off. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >As they say the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked. >We’re not talking ’slop’ or play in the steering here. The steering >wheel wobbles. If you grasp one side of the steering wheel with one >hand and push _forward_ then pull _back_ (not twist or turn) the >steering wheel rocks about 1/2 to 1"… > This may be a stupid question, but, are you sure the slop is in the flex > joint? Have you looked at the other flex/vibration isolation joint down by > the steering sector? Before tearing apart your wheel, you should put a vice > grip or something on the shaft entering the steering sector and have someone > else turn the wheel to see where the play is coming from. > >> You don’t need a new bearing. > >> There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism together, > that loosened up. > >I presume the st wheel and covers have to be pulled to get at these bolts, > correct? > >> It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the parts > in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. > >> Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual. > >I have a Chiltons manual. The steering column breakdowns aren’t the > greatest to say the least. > >> > Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 > Sierra K2500? > >> > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and > covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt > must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at > once, never > >> > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. > >> > Any thoughts or warnings? > >> > Ray L. – > >> > Sr. S/W Engineer > >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > >> > Controls > >> > Ray LaBrecque Jr. > >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > >> > Controls > >> > Additional Information: > >> > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. > >> > First NameRay > >> > Version 2.1
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It’s the bolts that hold the tilt mechanism to the lower part of the column. If you remove the steering wheel, turn signal mechanism, etc, you will see two of the 3 torx-headed screws that hold it together. The third is hidden by the pivot pin. Remove the two you can see (with a pencil magnet), dip the threads in loc-tite, and re-install. The 3rd one is more trouble to get to than it’s worth. Gary at No Bull Transmission Service Jacksonville, IL; where Cruise Night is September 25th in 1999. Questions Cheerfully Answered, Accuracy Not Guaranteed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >As they say the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked. >We’re not talking ’slop’ or play in the steering here. The steering >wheel wobbles. If you grasp one side of the steering wheel with one >hand and push _forward_ then pull _back_ (not twist or turn) the >steering wheel rocks about 1/2 to 1"… > This may be a stupid question, but, are you sure the slop is in the flex > joint? Have you looked at the other flex/vibration isolation joint down by > the steering sector? Before tearing apart your wheel, you should put a vice > grip or something on the shaft entering the steering sector and have someone > else turn the wheel to see where the play is coming from. > >> You don’t need a new bearing. > >> There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism together, > that loosened up. > >I presume the st wheel and covers have to be pulled to get at these bolts, > correct? > >> It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the parts > in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. > >> Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual. > >I have a Chiltons manual. The steering column breakdowns aren’t the > greatest to say the least. > >> > Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 > Sierra K2500? > >> > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and > covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt > must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at > once, never > >> > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. > >> > Any thoughts or warnings? > >> > Ray L. – > >> > Sr. S/W Engineer > >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > >> > Controls > >> > Ray LaBrecque Jr. > >> > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > >> > Controls > >> > Additional Information: > >> > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. > >> > First NameRay > >> > Version 2.1
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This may be a stupid question, but, are you sure the slop is in the flex joint? Have you looked at the other flex/vibration isolation joint down by the steering sector? Before tearing apart your wheel, you should put a vice grip or something on the shaft entering the steering sector and have someone else turn the wheel to see where the play is coming from.
> You don’t need a new bearing. > There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism together, that loosened up. >I presume the st wheel and covers have to be pulled to get at these bolts, correct? > It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the parts
in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. > Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual. >I have a Chiltons manual. The steering column breakdowns aren’t the
greatest to say the least. > > Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 Sierra K2500? > > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and
covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at once, never > > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. > > Any thoughts or warnings? > > Ray L.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Sr. S/W Engineer > > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > > Controls > > Ray LaBrecque Jr. > > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > > Controls > > Additional Information: > > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. > > First NameRay > > Version 2.1
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> You don’t need a new bearing. > There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism together, that loosened up.
I presume the st wheel and covers have to be pulled to get at these bolts, correct? > It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the parts in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. > Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual.
I have a Chiltons manual. The steering column breakdowns aren’t the greatest to say the least. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 Sierra K2500? > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at once, never > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. > Any thoughts or warnings? > Ray L. > Sr. S/W Engineer > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > Controls > Ray LaBrecque Jr. > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > Controls > Additional Information: > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. > First NameRay > Version 2.1
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You don’t need a new bearing. There are three torx bolts/screws that hold the tilt machanism together, that loosened up. It’s not a difficult repair but care must be taken, replacing the parts in the column, watch the wiring, easy to pinch. Check out tilt wheels in a GM service manual. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 Sierra K2500? > Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at once, never > noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. > Any thoughts or warnings? > Ray L. > Sr. S/W Engineer > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > Controls > Ray LaBrecque Jr. > Gretag Imaging Inc (GII) > Controls > Additional Information: > Last Name LaBrecque Jr. > First NameRay > Version 2.1
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Anybody have any experience replacing the tilt steering joint on a ‘88 Sierra K2500? Mine recently ‘loosened’ up. I haven’t pulled the steering wheel and covers yet, but I suspect the flex joint that allows the st wheel to tilt must be toast. I can rock the st wheel a good 1/2" to 1". Started all at once, never noticed a gradual "loosening" or anything. Any thoughts or warnings? Ray L.
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