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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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I am lead to believe that the best way to boost a vehicle is for the vehicle with the good battery to be turned off with the headlights on. The headlights add a load to the system which will absorb the sag in voltage of the battery and protect the computer systems from a voltage spike or sag. It is easy to blow a computer board with a voltage spike so this is how I have always done it and it works fine. Running the engine on the good vehicle while boosting is exposing its systems to unnecessary risk. Steve
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am lead to believe that the best way to boost a vehicle is for the vehicle > with the good battery to be turned off with the headlights on. The > headlights add a load to the system which will absorb the sag in voltage of > the battery and protect the computer systems from a voltage spike or sag. > It is easy to blow a computer board with a voltage spike so this is how I > have always done it and it works fine. Running the engine on the good > vehicle while boosting is exposing its systems to unnecessary risk. > Steve > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
Yes, it is good to leave the headlights on – but you should be connecting the negative of the dead-batt car to chassis (ground it) and not to he Neg output – you are putting it parallel to the good batt and a good chance that you MAY kill that chip. Hooking ip (+) to (+) and (-) to (-) is wrong and bad.
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When jump starting another vehicle you should shut the running engine off before connecting anything. Then connect both positive ends to the positive terminals of the batteries. Then connect the negative leads to a steel bracket on the engine of both vehicles, usually there are lifting brackets or an engine locating strut bracket. Note that I said; engine locating strut "BRACKET", not the strut itself as the strut is mounted in rubber. When both ends are connected, start the running car and make sure you have good connections. You should be able to hear the alternator load up trying to charge the dead battery. Let the battery charge for a bit, as long as possible before trying to start the other car. If you turn the lights on it will just put more load on the already maxed out alternator. After the car is started, disconnect the negative lead on one of the vehicles first, then the negative on the other vehicle, then both positive. In that order of disconnect, you will run less risk of causing an arc, which could damage either vehicle. Never cause an arc anywhere near one of the batteries, they can explode. This has worked well for me for years and never caused any damage to either vehicle. Good luck
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am lead to believe that the best way to boost a vehicle is for the > vehicle > with the good battery to be turned off with the headlights on. The > headlights add a load to the system which will absorb the sag in voltage > of > the battery and protect the computer systems from a voltage spike or sag. > It is easy to blow a computer board with a voltage spike so this is how I > have always done it and it works fine. Running the engine on the good > vehicle while boosting is exposing its systems to unnecessary risk. > Steve > > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > > damage the chip. > > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > > started and we stopped. > > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > > positive > > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > > arc > > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > > never > > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > > Your replies appreciated > > Denny > Yes, it is good to leave the headlights on – but you should be connecting > the negative of the dead-batt car to chassis (ground it) and not to he Neg > output – you are putting it parallel to the good batt and a good chance that > you MAY kill that chip. Hooking ip (+) to (+) and (-) to (-) is wrong and > bad.
because I haven’t done that a hundred times on newer vehicles… didn’t damage any of them.
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"Denny B" wrote > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer.
There are enough stupid people out there that aren’t careful how they hook up the leads and end up frying some valuable components. This is what the manufacturers are trying to prevent. There is nothing wrong with just hooking up booster cables to the two batteries (correctly) even with the engine of the donor car running. I’ve been working on cars for 23 years, and have yet to have had any problems by boosting this way. The recommendation to put the negative cable away from the actual battery post is simply a precaution in case the battery is leaking acid and the spark ignites the battery and blows it up. If at all possible it’s better to install the negative booster cable to a ground on the engine, but I’ve done it both ways. Just the other day, I was talking to one of the service advisors about a customer who had just towed in their fairly new Blazer. Seems the wife and daughter had attempted to boost the vehicle, got the positive and negative crossed….and the vehicle almost went up in smoke. Who knows what they blew on that vehicle…..will be interesting to find out how many components they fried. But that’s the main concern, crossing positive and negative. Boosting new cars is done all the time. I’m not dragging a car in the shop if I can just roll a booster pack out to it. Ian
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I am lead to believe that the best way to boost a vehicle is for the > vehicle > > with the good battery to be turned off with the headlights on. The > > headlights add a load to the system which will absorb the sag in voltage > of > > the battery and protect the computer systems from a voltage spike or > sag. > > It is easy to blow a computer board with a voltage spike so this is how > I > > have always done it and it works fine. Running the engine on the good > > vehicle while boosting is exposing its systems to unnecessary risk. > > Steve > > > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > > > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > > > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > > > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > > > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > > > damage the chip. > > > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > > > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > > > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > > > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > > > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > > > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > > > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > > > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > > > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > > > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > > > started and we stopped. > > > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > > > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > > > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > > > positive > > > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > > > arc > > > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > > > never > > > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > > > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > > > Your replies appreciated > > > Denny > Yes, it is good to leave the headlights on – but you should be connecting > the negative of the dead-batt car to chassis (ground it) and not to he Neg > output – you are putting it parallel to the good batt and a good chance > that > you MAY kill that chip. Hooking ip (+) to (+) and (-) to (-) is wrong and > bad. > because I haven’t done that a hundred times on newer vehicles… didn’t > damage any of them.
Well, if you put them + to + and – to – and always use your own car to do the jump, your batt is gonna need replace – gonna run low on juice lol. Well, just make sure you have a good set of cables and try to match up the batt sizes 
I once saw some guy using a Honda Civi to jump start a Ford Windstar – the Winstar sucked the juices out of the Civi cause they decide to leave the cables on to "charge" the Windstar before cranking it. I drive a GMC Safari, so I ended up jumping the two of them LOL — take a quick read in your car’s owner manual, they will show you how to properly jump start your car. *note. on some newer car’s like the Chevy Venture, they put the "Negative" terminal in a super uneasy spot to reach on purpose so that owner’s wont beable to help jump start other cars unless they REALLY know what they are doing – cause if not, they might damage something. Hence why again, the (-) of the bad car should go to a metal connection on the car, not the (-) – you end up putting the two batts in parallel, rather than series. Here is a quick goggle – http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm – give it a read
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> Hence why again, the (-) of the bad car should go to a metal connection on > the car, not the (-) – you end up putting the two batts in parallel, rather > than series. > Here is a quick goggle – http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm – give > it a read
The negative side of the battery is connected to car ground. It does not make any difference if the (-) cable is put on the battery or part of the car. It is the same thing. The reason it is not wise to attach the cable directly to the battery is because there may hydrogen gas there. It may explode. You want the batteries parallel. It would be difficult and dangerous to put them in series.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hence why again, the (-) of the bad car should go to a metal connection on > the car, not the (-) – you end up putting the two batts in parallel, rather > than series. > Here is a quick goggle – http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm – give > it a read > The negative side of the battery is connected to car ground. > It does not make any difference if the (-) cable is put on the battery > or part of the car. It is the same thing. > The reason it is not wise to attach the cable directly to the battery > is because there may hydrogen gas there. It may explode. > You want the batteries parallel. It would be difficult and dangerous > to put them in series.
I had to jump start my Grand Prix and I was using a Silverado to give me the boost. Had the negative cable hooked up to the battery (Gramps did it) and my car wouldn’t start. Moved the negative cable to an unpainted part of my chassis, turned the key and it churned right up.
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@hotmail.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hence why again, the (-) of the bad car should go to a metal connection > on > > the car, not the (-) – you end up putting the two batts in parallel, > rather > > than series. > > Here is a quick goggle – http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm – > give > > it a read > The negative side of the battery is connected to car ground. > It does not make any difference if the (-) cable is put on the battery > or part of the car. It is the same thing. > The reason it is not wise to attach the cable directly to the battery > is because there may hydrogen gas there. It may explode. > You want the batteries parallel. It would be difficult and dangerous > to put them in series. > I had to jump start my Grand Prix and I was using a Silverado to give me the > boost. Had the negative cable hooked up to the battery (Gramps did it) and > my car wouldn’t start. Moved the negative cable to an unpainted part of my > chassis, turned the key and it churned right up.
Sounds like it either wasnt making contact at the bat post or it had a bad ground wire. I guess if this thread tought me anything it is that Nissan doesnt want their cars jumped and I’ll gladly oblidge them in that endeavor. 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hence why again, the (-) of the bad car should go to a metal connection > on > > the car, not the (-) – you end up putting the two batts in parallel, > rather > > than series. > > Here is a quick goggle – http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm – > give > > it a read > The negative side of the battery is connected to car ground. > It does not make any difference if the (-) cable is put on the battery > or part of the car. It is the same thing. > The reason it is not wise to attach the cable directly to the battery > is because there may hydrogen gas there. It may explode. > You want the batteries parallel. It would be difficult and dangerous > to put them in series. > I had to jump start my Grand Prix and I was using a Silverado to give me the > boost. Had the negative cable hooked up to the battery (Gramps did it) and > my car wouldn’t start. Moved the negative cable to an unpainted part of my > chassis, turned the key and it churned right up.
Better ohm/volt out the cable. It is not grounded properly. It will lead to early alternator death along with a host of other electrical problems.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hence why again, the (-) of the bad car should go to a metal connection on > the car, not the (-) – you end up putting the two batts in parallel, rather > than series. > Here is a quick goggle – http://www.carbuyingtips.com/jumpstart.htm – give > it a read > The negative side of the battery is connected to car ground. > It does not make any difference if the (-) cable is put on the battery > or part of the car. It is the same thing. > The reason it is not wise to attach the cable directly to the battery > is because there may hydrogen gas there. It may explode. > You want the batteries parallel. It would be difficult and dangerous > to put them in series.
Oops, my bad – you are right, the other way around – hah hah. 
Silly me, series means it will be a total of 24V when they are "good" LOL – not good for the rest of the electronics! The important thing, just get it right – and yes, not to wise to hook up to neg batt cause it may explode, I think that link give a description of that.
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> I guess if this thread taught me anything it is that Nissan doesnt want > their cars jumped and I’ll gladly oblidge them in that endeavor.
LOL! Me too. GW
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Better ohm/volt out the cable. It is not grounded properly. It will lead to early alternator death along with a host of other electrical problems. I’ll check into the cable thing when it warms up a little bit. It happened curious, but could a loose connection at the alternator have done that?
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Sounds like it either wasnt making contact at the bat post or it had a bad ground wire. I’m probably going to check the wire when it gets a little bit warmer out (gotta love Milwaukee weather…one day its 60 the next it’s 15). But then it may also have not been making contact. All I can remember is that it was freaking cold out and my alternator plug wasn’t pushed into the alternator all the way.
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>"Denny B" wrote >There are enough stupid people out there that aren’t
And every one of them is behind the wheel here in Southern Calif when it’s raining. Except for me. I’m stupid, just not that stupid. >their fairly new Blazer. Seems the wife and daughter >had attempted to boost the vehicle, got the positive >and negative crossed….and the vehicle almost went >up in smoke. Who knows what they blew on that >vehicle…..will be interesting to find out how many >components they fried.
My prediction is: The sacrificial devices now installed by the factory are arrayed like a regiment of pikemen, lancers and bowmen. I don’t forsee any factory component other than what was supposed to open up at the reversal will be affected.( Aftermarket things that they hang on and hook directly to the battery with a long wire run can sometimes fizzle.) That’s not how I would expect the factory to do things, as I’d expect them to leave one component supply unprotected just to sell a part to a dummy. Let me know if I was right or just passing gas. >crossing positive and negative. Boosting new cars >is done all the time. I’m not dragging a car in the >shop if I can just roll a booster pack out to it.
I concur. I think what the folks are trying to prevent here is damage due to voltage spiking during the establishment of the connection. But capacitors can be a sponge for those, especially big ones, and a car battery is almost a perfect capacitor, and a huge one at that. The component that’s a bugger for killer spike generating is the cycling AC compressor clutch, and the AC compressor is included even in the defrost selection, so it’s a well used component. The various points of the electrical system are already hardened for that stuff, with the first device being the diode across the compressor clutch supply and earth at the connector. Many of the sealed electronic components are internally protected, just in case some yahoo scratches his head wondering who the hell put a resistor on this here icebox? (true event) Jack – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Ian
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> Better ohm/volt out the cable. It is not grounded properly. > It will lead to early alternator death along with a host of > other electrical problems. > I’ll check into the cable thing when it warms up a little bit. It happened > curious, but could a loose connection at the alternator have done that?
A loose connection at the alt should not prevent jump starting with cables at the battery posts but it could shorten alt life due to resistance and transients.
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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When jump starting, allow the discharged battery in the stranded car sit and accept the boost charge for at least 10 to 15 minutes to minimize damage from voltage spike and/or current surge.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much > everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the > shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and > alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can > cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from > this. > I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. >The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan >and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles >Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle >has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can >damage the chip. >We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off >I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery >negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. >Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both >vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. >Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I >tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after >5 minutes of trying stopped. >I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb >and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle >started and we stopped. >What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this >claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting >themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the >positive >of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an >arc >it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will >never >give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. >Your replies appreciated >Denny
Well, what they’re implying is that there is an entire class of people out there who know nothing about how to jump-start a car, doing incredibly stupid things like connecting the positive poles first, grounding the negatives together, and so on and so forth. Oh wait.. that’s what you did… Oh well… my statement stands… The proper method for jumpstarting a car is to make sure that the cars are close enough to connect the battery cables, but not touching (more important with cars with metallic/chrome bumpers but still good practice with those having rubberized/composite bumpers). Ensure the engines of both cars are switched off. Ensure that all electrical devices (stereos, lights, etc.) on the cars are turned off. Connect postive to positive, connecting the cables (usually the red clamps) to the car with the good battery, then the car with the discharged battery. Then, connect one end of the cable with the black clamp to the negative post of the good battery, and ground the other end of the clamp to a good electrical ground on the car with the dead battery. Usually a bracket, or other metallic part of the car that is grounded. It is NOT recommended that you connect to the negative post of the discharged battery, as this can produce a spark which, in the presence of hydrogen gas, is considered to be a "bad" thing. Start the car with the good battery, allow it to idle high (about 1500 rpm or so) and attempt to start the car with the dead battery. If the car will not start, allow the battery to receive charge for 20 minutes, and then retry. Continue until the car has received enough charge to start. When disconnecting the cables, remove them in the reverse order of connection, making sure not to allow any short/cross circuiting of clamps. Cross connecting of cables can result in electrical failure of wiring and components of either car, including but not limited to the reverse polarity protection diodes in the alternators. It can also result in sparks which can result in explosion and/or fire. It is recommended that extreme care be exercised when jump-starting a car. As with any procedure involving large mechanical devices (and automobiles certainly qualify) or electrical connections, if you are unsure of what you are doing, don’t even attempt to do it yourself, call someone who knows what they’re doing. If you don’t, you could very well lose a limb, and organ, or your life. Raymond Sirois SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
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The onboard computer for most new cars nowadays runs pretty much everything; the fuel injection, the brakes, the transmission, the shocks, etc. When a big source of current like a battery and alternator from another vehicle is hooked into the system, it can cause a surge, and unfortunately, computers are prone to damage from this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I thought the procedure was Positive of good battery to positive of dead battery Negative of good battery to metal on engine of dead battery. Start engine of car w/ good battery. Start engine of dead battery car.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. > The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan > and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles > Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle > has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can > damage the chip. > We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off > I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery > negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. > Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both > vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. > Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I > tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after > 5 minutes of trying stopped. > I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb > and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle > started and we stopped. > What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this > claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting > themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the > positive > of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an > arc > it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will > never > give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather > Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. > Your replies appreciated > Denny
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I had problems starting my car in minus 26 degree weather. The person I asked to give me a boost has a year 2002 Nissan and he stated that his booklet states Not to boost other vehicles Nor other vehicles give him a boost. He stated that his vehicle has a chip that costs thousands of dollars and boosting can damage the chip. We went ahead any way, his engine was off and my engine was off I connected the jumper cable negative (black) to his battery negative, then the black jumper cable to my battery negative. Then I connected the red cable to the battery positives of both vehicles. Made sure the connections were solid. Then the Nissan started its engine, it continued to run and then I tried to start my engine. I could not start my engine and after 5 minutes of trying stopped. I went and purchased some fluid to spray down the throat of my carb and the Nissan again assisted me. I still could not get my vehicle started and we stopped. What interests me there was no damage to the Nissan and is this claim about not boosting other vehicles the manufacturer protecting themselves as usual. Or do they actually mean if you connect the positive of one battery to the negative battery of the other or if you cause an arc it will damage the chip (ic). Are they implying a Nissan battery will never give you trouble and you will Never need a boost in ninus 30 weather Or do you have to have your vehicle towed to a Nissan dealer. Your replies appreciated Denny
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