Driving lights for snow
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The beam pattern may indeed have a distinct advantage in fog/snow, but as an optical engineer, I can professionally tell you it has more to do with with the wavelength (color) of the light than the pattern…….but like the others said, some like the white and some like the yellow, even some prefer the true amber beams….to each their own… ( I say tomato, you say tom a to ??)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Have to disagree with you. The yellow is not as reflective as the white > light. > Dave, > Fog lamps are defined by the pattern of their lenses. Color has nothing to > do > with it. Some people find white light better, some yellow. > Dean > > The fog lamps, or true fog lamps, have a yellowish hue to them. This is > > because the white light is reflected by the snow ( I know, you are now > > saying ‘DUH’) but the yellow wavelength is not reflected nearly as much, > so > > it is able to penetrate the snow, or fog for that matter. Her’s an > > experiment you can try at your own risk: when it is snowing, find a > > parkinglot or side road and see wht happens when you use your headlights > and > > the drop them down to your parking lights, see the difference that the > > yellow in them makes… > > > I never heard that story, but all I have read about fog lights is that > > their > > > effectiveness comes from being low so that they can shoot under the > snow > > or > > > fog (eliminating the problem you mentioned below) and illuminating > what > > was > > > ahead in that fashion. > > > > I’ll take your word for it. I had fog lamps on a ‘93 Bonneville and > > > didn’t > > > > think they made any difference in low visability conditions. > Figured it > > > was > > > > because they were clear, rather than fitted with a yellow lens. > Light > > > > tended to reflect back off the snow or fog rather than penetrate. > left > > me > > > > thinking fog lights were more style than substance. I remember > reading > > > that > > > > fog lamps came into being after a driver years ago in a cross > country > > race > > > > somehow found that covering the headlamps with newspaper produced a > > > > yellowish light that penetrated the fog. > > > > What about it? Do yellow lamps work better? > > > > > I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces > > factory > > > > air > > > > > dam on my 99 Silverado (
ttp://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> so > > > they > > > > > sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on > the > > > > lights, > > > > > won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up > just > > > fine. > > > > > No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all > the > > > sand, > > > > > salt and gravel on the highway. > > > > > H McCollister > > > > > > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > > > > > > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > > > > > > -Allan > > > > > >> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be > > > > appreciated. > > > > > >> I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4. > > > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Have to disagree with you. The yellow is not as reflective as the white light.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dave, > Fog lamps are defined by the pattern of their lenses. Color has nothing to do > with it. Some people find white light better, some yellow. > Dean > The fog lamps, or true fog lamps, have a yellowish hue to them. This is > because the white light is reflected by the snow ( I know, you are now > saying ‘DUH’) but the yellow wavelength is not reflected nearly as much, so > it is able to penetrate the snow, or fog for that matter. Her’s an > experiment you can try at your own risk: when it is snowing, find a > parkinglot or side road and see wht happens when you use your headlights and > the drop them down to your parking lights, see the difference that the > yellow in them makes… > > I never heard that story, but all I have read about fog lights is that > their > > effectiveness comes from being low so that they can shoot under the snow > or > > fog (eliminating the problem you mentioned below) and illuminating what > was > > ahead in that fashion. > > > I’ll take your word for it. I had fog lamps on a ‘93 Bonneville and > > didn’t > > > think they made any difference in low visability conditions. Figured it > > was > > > because they were clear, rather than fitted with a yellow lens. Light > > > tended to reflect back off the snow or fog rather than penetrate. left > me > > > thinking fog lights were more style than substance. I remember reading > > that > > > fog lamps came into being after a driver years ago in a cross country > race > > > somehow found that covering the headlamps with newspaper produced a > > > yellowish light that penetrated the fog. > > > What about it? Do yellow lamps work better? > > > > I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces > factory > > > air > > > > dam on my 99 Silverado ( http://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), so > > they > > > > sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on the > > > lights, > > > > won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up just > > fine. > > > > No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all the > > sand, > > > > salt and gravel on the highway. > > > > H McCollister > > > > > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > > > > > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > > > > > -Allan > > > > >> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be > > > appreciated. > > > > >> I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4. > > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Dave, Fog lamps are defined by the pattern of their lenses. Color has nothing to do with it. Some people find white light better, some yellow. Dean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The fog lamps, or true fog lamps, have a yellowish hue to them. This is > because the white light is reflected by the snow ( I know, you are now > saying ‘DUH’) but the yellow wavelength is not reflected nearly as much, so > it is able to penetrate the snow, or fog for that matter. Her’s an > experiment you can try at your own risk: when it is snowing, find a > parkinglot or side road and see wht happens when you use your headlights and > the drop them down to your parking lights, see the difference that the > yellow in them makes… > I never heard that story, but all I have read about fog lights is that > their > effectiveness comes from being low so that they can shoot under the snow > or > fog (eliminating the problem you mentioned below) and illuminating what > was > ahead in that fashion. > > I’ll take your word for it. I had fog lamps on a ‘93 Bonneville and > didn’t > > think they made any difference in low visability conditions. Figured it > was > > because they were clear, rather than fitted with a yellow lens. Light > > tended to reflect back off the snow or fog rather than penetrate. left > me > > thinking fog lights were more style than substance. I remember reading > that > > fog lamps came into being after a driver years ago in a cross country > race > > somehow found that covering the headlamps with newspaper produced a > > yellowish light that penetrated the fog. > > What about it? Do yellow lamps work better? > > > I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces > factory > > air > > > dam on my 99 Silverado ( http://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), so > they > > > sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on the > > lights, > > > won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up just > fine. > > > No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all the > sand, > > > salt and gravel on the highway. > > > H McCollister > > > > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > > > > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > > > > -Allan > > > >> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be > > appreciated. > > > >> I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4. > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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The fog lamps, or true fog lamps, have a yellowish hue to them. This is because the white light is reflected by the snow ( I know, you are now saying ‘DUH’) but the yellow wavelength is not reflected nearly as much, so it is able to penetrate the snow, or fog for that matter. Her’s an experiment you can try at your own risk: when it is snowing, find a parkinglot or side road and see wht happens when you use your headlights and the drop them down to your parking lights, see the difference that the yellow in them makes…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I never heard that story, but all I have read about fog lights is that their > effectiveness comes from being low so that they can shoot under the snow or > fog (eliminating the problem you mentioned below) and illuminating what was > ahead in that fashion. > I’ll take your word for it. I had fog lamps on a ‘93 Bonneville and > didn’t > think they made any difference in low visability conditions. Figured it > was > because they were clear, rather than fitted with a yellow lens. Light > tended to reflect back off the snow or fog rather than penetrate. left me > thinking fog lights were more style than substance. I remember reading > that > fog lamps came into being after a driver years ago in a cross country race > somehow found that covering the headlamps with newspaper produced a > yellowish light that penetrated the fog. > What about it? Do yellow lamps work better? > > I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces factory > air > > dam on my 99 Silverado ( http://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), so > they > > sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on the > lights, > > won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up just > fine. > > No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all the > sand, > > salt and gravel on the highway. > > H McCollister > > > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > > > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > > > -Allan > > >> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be > appreciated. > > >> I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4. > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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I never heard that story, but all I have read about fog lights is that their effectiveness comes from being low so that they can shoot under the snow or fog (eliminating the problem you mentioned below) and illuminating what was ahead in that fashion.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ll take your word for it. I had fog lamps on a ‘93 Bonneville and didn’t > think they made any difference in low visability conditions. Figured it was > because they were clear, rather than fitted with a yellow lens. Light > tended to reflect back off the snow or fog rather than penetrate. left me > thinking fog lights were more style than substance. I remember reading that > fog lamps came into being after a driver years ago in a cross country race > somehow found that covering the headlamps with newspaper produced a > yellowish light that penetrated the fog. > What about it? Do yellow lamps work better? > I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces factory > air > dam on my 99 Silverado ( http://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), so they > sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on the > lights, > won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up just fine. > No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all the sand, > salt and gravel on the highway. > H McCollister > > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > > -Allan > >> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be > appreciated. > >> I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
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Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? -Allan
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be appreciated. > I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
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PIAA makes pretty industructable lights and the fog lights are great. Fog lights work best if they are low,as in below the bumper. Mine are below and inwards of the bumper on bars and also inside 1/4 inch steel boxes I welded up. PIAA says the glass is almost industructable but i’ve got wire screens in front of them. Clear fogs work well all year round but amber ones are the best espacially for snowy conditions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be appreciated. > I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
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I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces factory air dam on my 99 Silverado ( http://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), so they sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on the lights, won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up just fine. No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all the sand, salt and gravel on the highway. H McCollister – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > -Allan > Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be appreciated. > I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
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I’ll take your word for it. I had fog lamps on a ‘93 Bonneville and didn’t think they made any difference in low visability conditions. Figured it was because they were clear, rather than fitted with a yellow lens. Light tended to reflect back off the snow or fog rather than penetrate. left me thinking fog lights were more style than substance. I remember reading that fog lamps came into being after a driver years ago in a cross country race somehow found that covering the headlamps with newspaper produced a yellowish light that penetrated the fog. What about it? Do yellow lamps work better?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a pair of 80 ProXT’s mounted in a PIAA air dam (replaces factory air > dam on my 99 Silverado ( http://www.piaa.com/accessories.html ), so they > sit very low. There are no screens and I can’t put the covers on the lights, > won’t fit in the opening in the air dam, yet the lights hold up just fine. > No damage over several months, even so far this winter with all the sand, > salt and gravel on the highway. > H McCollister > Newsgroups: alt.autos.4×4.chevy-trucks > Aren’t you asking for trouble if you mount them low? > -Allan >> Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be appreciated. >> I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
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Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be appreciated. I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
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Gary, For driving in snow, nothing beats fog lights, Hella makes great ones. Dean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Suggestions for add-on lights for snowy conditions would be appreciated. > I’d like to mount them low on a ‘88 GMC 4×4.
