Couldn't Resist Asking (Stock Air Intake)

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Pic, I didn’t get the original post but did get the responses on my server.  The baffles where the intake tube meets the fender should be removable via 2-3 plastic pins which hold the resonator flap (the HP robbing culprit) in place.  Once the pins are out the baffles should be removable.  And yes, you will have more horsies and a gnarly "sucking" sound when you mash the pedal after removal. I personally prefer open-air elements as they are totally non-restrictive (with the exception of the filter media) and the pure volume of air they are capable of passing far outweighs the slightly warmer air that is being ingested.  They sound awesome and will provide more horsies than the stock aircleaner, with or without the baffles/resonator.  Some will agree with me, some will disagree, but hey, JMHO! Doc   I respect your concern, but what do you suggest for linking?  Should i have my own web site?  I was just exercising the age old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words".  Didn’t know I was doing anything wrong, sorry.   Regards,   Pic.     Read up on the Banks power pak.     They replace the air cleaner cover, cut off the silencer, and put a deflector in the  fender.     It works,  has a more consistant power band, no flat spots.     BTW this is not a binary group, so please dont post pictures. Just links.     Cheers

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Yeh, and then when you get water in , it siezes your engine which then sounds worse. knock, knock. hehehe john

I’ll not repost the picture, but you can follow along.  On your intake set-up you have three distinct parts.  Starting from the right in the photo, you have the round air filter housing, in the middle you have a piece of flexible connector tubing with ribs, and on the left you have an airbox with internal baffles that connects to the passenger’s side interior fender well where fresh air enters.  The baffles in the airbox help prevent water, snow and other debris from getting into your intake.  You can remove the airbox and the flexible connector tubing and replace them with a straight piece of piping (possibly PVC or flexible ductwork) directly from the spout on the air filter housing to the hole in the fender well. Will this give you more power?  Don’t know. Will it make your motor sound better?  Don’t care. Good luck – Jonathan — Acta Non Verba – Deeds Not Words Lieutenant Jonathan Race, EMS Supervisor Orange County (FL) Fire-Rescue Department

I’ve been reading on various posts discussing factory air intakes and how "baffles" could be removed to increase intake sound and possibly some horses.  I have not read anything that I could relate to.  I have included a picture of my truck’s intake, would someone please describe where i should look and what to look for with this particular application/setup. ‘94 GMC

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yes, its called a speed/density system.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Doc" it a ‘94, your description sounds right on the money! (TBI > SmallBlock > etc..) > PIC, > You don’t have a MAF sensor then <just one less thing to grenade over > time!>.  The A/F mixture is primarily regulated by TPS, MAP, and 02 sensor > signals.  Take er’ easy. > Doc

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> "Doc" it a ‘94, your description sounds right on the money! (TBI SmallBlock > etc..)

PIC, You don’t have a MAF sensor then <just one less thing to grenade over time!>.  The A/F mixture is primarily regulated by TPS, MAP, and 02 sensor signals.  Take er’ easy. Doc

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> If the picture you are referring to without the mass airflow sensor is the > one that I posted, I did not remove it, the truck didn’t come with one > (could it be running solely on the MAP and O2 for calculating the mixture, > add a TPS as well…).

Pic, what year is yer’ truck?  88-95 smallblock TBI systems don’t have a MAF sensor.  They <MAF’s> hit the scene in 96′ with the 1st gen of Vortecs. Doc

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"Doc" it a ‘94, your description sounds right on the money! (TBI SmallBlock etc..)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If the picture you are referring to without the mass airflow sensor is the > one that I posted, I did not remove it, the truck didn’t come with one > (could it be running solely on the MAP and O2 for calculating the mixture, > add a TPS as well…). > Pic, what year is yer’ truck?  88-95 smallblock TBI systems don’t have a MAF > sensor.  They <MAF’s> hit the scene in 96′ with the 1st gen of Vortecs. > Doc

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Unfortunately, unless your truck didn’t come with a MAF(like my 88), it’ll run like hell without it. Sam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If the picture you are referring to without the mass airflow sensor is the > one that I posted, I did not remove it, the truck didn’t come with one > (could it be running solely on the MAP and O2 for calculating the mixture, > add a TPS as well…). > Don’t honestly know, but I was at the shop my friend works at the other > day > and he was working on a blazer that had a broken sensor (mass air flow???) > like the part that is showed removed in the pictures. my friend told me > that > the car would not run without it.. So I would think thats not something > you > would want to take out.. or.. really anything that has a wire hooked to it > for that matter… > Adair

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Don’t honestly know, but I was at the shop my friend works at the other day and he was working on a blazer that had a broken sensor (mass air flow???) like the part that is showed removed in the pictures. my friend told me that the car would not run without it.. So I would think thats not something you would want to take out.. or.. really anything that has a wire hooked to it for that matter… Adair

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If the picture you are referring to without the mass airflow sensor is the one that I posted, I did not remove it, the truck didn’t come with one (could it be running solely on the MAP and O2 for calculating the mixture, add a TPS as well…).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Don’t honestly know, but I was at the shop my friend works at the other day > and he was working on a blazer that had a broken sensor (mass air flow???) > like the part that is showed removed in the pictures. my friend told me that > the car would not run without it.. So I would think thats not something you > would want to take out.. or.. really anything that has a wire hooked to it > for that matter… > Adair

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Ya, and if you’re in that much water anyways, you needed a snorkel to save you. Even the original baffle won’t prevent water from flooding the engine. Besides, it’s not "seized", it’s hydrolocked, which is a correctable condition. No "knock knock". Sam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yeh, and then when you get water in , it siezes your engine which then > sounds worse. knock, knock. hehehe > john > I’ll not repost the picture, but you can follow along.  On your intake > set-up you have three distinct parts.  Starting from the right in the photo, > you have the round air filter housing, in the middle you have a piece of > flexible connector tubing with ribs, and on the left you have an airbox with > internal baffles that connects to the passenger’s side interior fender well > where fresh air enters.  The baffles in the airbox help prevent water, snow > and other debris from getting into your intake.  You can remove the airbox > and the flexible connector tubing and replace them with a straight piece of > piping (possibly PVC or flexible ductwork) directly from the spout on the > air filter housing to the hole in the fender well. > Will this give you more power?  Don’t know. > Will it make your motor sound better?  Don’t care. > Good luck – Jonathan > — > Acta Non Verba – Deeds Not Words > Lieutenant Jonathan Race, EMS Supervisor > Orange County (FL) Fire-Rescue Department > I’ve been reading on various posts discussing factory air intakes and how > "baffles" could be removed to increase intake sound and possibly some > horses.  I have not read anything that I could relate to.  I have included a > picture of my truck’s intake, would someone please describe where i should > look and what to look for with this particular application/setup. > ‘94 GMC

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Read up on the Banks power pak. They replace the air cleaner cover, cut off the silencer, and put a deflector in the  fender. It works,  has a more consistant power band, no flat spots. BTW this is not a binary group, so please dont post pictures. Just links. Cheers

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I respect your concern, but what do you suggest for linking?  Should i have my own web site?  I was just exercising the age old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words".  Didn’t know I was doing anything wrong, sorry. Regards, Pic.   Read up on the Banks power pak.   They replace the air cleaner cover, cut off the silencer, and put a deflector in the  fender.   It works,  has a more consistant power band, no flat spots.   BTW this is not a binary group, so please dont post pictures. Just links.   Cheers

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don’t sweat it the occasional accidental picture isn’t going to crash the internet g

I respect your concern, but what do you suggest for linking?  Should i have my own web site?  I was just exercising the age old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words".  Didn’t know I was doing anything wrong, sorry. Regards, Pic.   Read up on the Banks power pak.   They replace the air cleaner cover, cut off the silencer, and put a deflector in the  fender.   It works,  has a more consistant power band, no flat spots.   BTW this is not a binary group, so please dont post pictures. Just links.   Cheers

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I’ll not repost the picture, but you can follow along.  On your intake set-up you have three distinct parts.  Starting from the right in the photo, you have the round air filter housing, in the middle you have a piece of flexible connector tubing with ribs, and on the left you have an airbox with internal baffles that connects to the passenger’s side interior fender well where fresh air enters.  The baffles in the airbox help prevent water, snow and other debris from getting into your intake.  You can remove the airbox and the flexible connector tubing and replace them with a straight piece of piping (possibly PVC or flexible ductwork) directly from the spout on the air filter housing to the hole in the fender well. Will this give you more power?  Don’t know. Will it make your motor sound better?  Don’t care. Good luck – Jonathan — Acta Non Verba – Deeds Not Words Lieutenant Jonathan Race, EMS Supervisor Orange County (FL) Fire-Rescue Department

I’ve been reading on various posts discussing factory air intakes and how "baffles" could be removed to increase intake sound and possibly some horses.  I have not read anything that I could relate to.  I have included a picture of my truck’s intake, would someone please describe where i should look and what to look for with this particular application/setup. ‘94 GMC

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