Bed Liner Woes

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Thanks Again Paul,  that’s good news … If I may ask another couple of questions … What’s your take (vs. the "promo literature") on the "Limited" lifetime Warrantee – I assume it will; – fix defects in in the liner for the life of truck / original owner.  - I assume it’s easy for them to do … – Fix user damage – at a decent price. – What about "If" you get bed rust / damage under the liner – ?? – Can they "Match" the colors or repairs closely – is it best to stay with Black for color matching ….??? Thanks! SteveC

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> So …  One direst question – do you foresee the Liner giving any problems > by causing trapped water / rust for life of the Vehicle??    I’m willing > to > pay the money – but I want to put it in and forget it.  I do not want to > wrestle with problems that may not come under the "Limited" warrantee – > Rust > / rust through/ bubbles, trapped water, etc … > I don’t think there is any possibility of trapping water under a spray-on > lining.  It is like a very thick coat of paint- tightly adheres everywhere. > Professional installers (like Rhino) are very careful in their installation > process to make sure the surface is very clean and dry before spraying. > Mine has shown no indication of such problems in six years. > Paul Johnson > Paul Johnson

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Yeah, I’ve got another post. If you get a spray on liner, watch them do it.  The reason I don’t like them, is I’ve seen trucks from the early nineties with rust problems not because of the liner, but because of the metal.  The stuff that they use to seal the seams in a box is put on hot kinda like a caulk gun that’s hooked up to a giant 2ton tank of sealer.  It gets baked on when it goes through the furnace and it’s suppose to last forever.  Well, I’ve seen this sealer get cracked under the spray on bedliner and slowly let mud and water get in under the bedliner and rust it out.  I saw this happen the most before the wheelwells.  However, this is nothing compared to what I see with plastic bedliners. I’d just watch to see how well they clean it and prepare it.  I saw a really slick job once where they put new plastic drain holes in the box so they could "guarantee" no rust there and on the bottom side they put silicone around it. I’ve always wanted one of those glow-in-the-dark spray in bedliners and then I’d put a mat on the top.  But I wouldn’t invest in a $600 bedliner when I could paint the bed of the truck for $125/each time. -Brian

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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Thanks for the link. I also went to the rhino link from Zybart’s. I think the spray on is the way to go just because the slide in will always rub the paint. There’s no way to prevent it that I can see. Anyone know a price on the rhino liner? http://www.rhinolinings.com/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Ann, > try here .. > http://www.ziebart.com/default.htm > SteveC > Where do you find these? > > Amen.  I got a Rhino in my 99 the day after I bought it.  I wouldn’t > have > > anything else. > > Randy > > > ANY drop-in bed liner is going be to a problem.  I have a Rhino lining > in > > my > > > ‘95 (done when it was new).  I have hauled garden tractors, rock, > > firewood, > > > lumber, etc. with no sign of damage in six years.  Advantages- no > > > moisture/dirt trapped under in, reduces drumming of metal bed, is > really > > > non-skid, can be easily touched up if damaged and on and on.  I would > stay > > > away from the do-it-yourself types.  To me, $400-500 for a good > bedliner > > is > > > cheap on a $30,000 plus truck. > > > Paul Johnson > > > (no, I don’t have anything to do with Rhino Company and there may be > > others > > > just as good- I’m just relating my experience)

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hi Brian, Thanks for the Post !! – The Point you make about maintenance is well taken  - Long term Care , i.e., Fading, eventual repair if needed (color/texture match…) – and especially if I will have long term problems with trapped water /rust under the liner.  THIS is my major concern with the Rino – I’m heading down to Z-bart this AM to get more info …. My last two cars lasted me 7 + years and well over 150K Miles. – Also, You comment on a "Good" bed liner is well taken as well.  "I believe" I got a reasonably good one – GM (AKA Durable-Liner ;’) – I was told) – but no "Nibs" as you refer to – but very heavy.   And it was installed by the dealer as well. The issue I see is that the under rail type for my type is "Very" sloppy side to side and it skids around terribly.  this design / fit is a design issue. Unless it fits Real well – all bets are off.   I thinks that an over the rail would be better as it traps three sides and if you have stake holes (mine truck does not ) you can anchor these as well. But Warping in temp. extremes can be an issue if you crank it down tight.  Also an over the rail "May" rub the paint off the outside rails if the "over the edge" is allowed to rub the edges to the paint …. I’ll post my final repair / results for everyone!!! Thanks! SteveC

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> some random thoughts. > bed liners are retarded.  a great idea, but a poor solution.  i think they > cause more problems than they ever solve. > i think spray in plastic bed liners are just as bad.  it’s not like a metal > box that can be repainted when it starts looking bad.  when the spray in > liner looks bad, you’re SOL. > i’d make the dealer repaint the bed, if they don’t want to repaint the bed, > then it’s time to make phonecalls. > i’d promptly find myself a heavy-duty bed liner.  if you pay less than $90 > for it, it’s a cheap one.  you need one that’s a solid 5/8" thick or more, > with the nylon core.  it should have ribs on it 1/16" or so higher than the > rest of the mat that mimics your bed.  it should have little nubs on the > back side that are about the size of a pencil eraser. > Why am I being so specific?  The ribs on the top size that look like your > bed are good for holding things, the sand falls between the high spots and > hold things well.  The nubs on the bottom are so that water and crud can get > out and not work like sandpaper like the cheap mats.  It needs to be thick > so that it doesn’t flop around in the wind (even though you should screw the > back two corners into your bed) and so that when you drop a refrigerator > corner on the truck, the refrigerator bends and not your bed. > The type that are made from tire material are still traction giving when > what as oppose to the plastic ones that feel like an inner-tube for a > bicycle and are slippery when wet. > Worried about the sides of your box getting beat up?  Probably shouldn’t. I > imagine that if you noticed that the bedliner is hurting your truck, you > probably don’t do many things that are stupid enough to hurt the box of your > truck.  However, I’d invest in a load bar/load stabilizer for your truck to > keep things from moving around (like a 20lb propane cylinder or the > groceries).  If you’re cheap like me, go ask a truck driver if he’s got one > you can have for $40, I can guarantee it’ll be stronger than anything you’re > going to find at a RV shop. > -Brian > Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an > under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while > this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and > sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the > group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed > start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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I had mine installed/sprayed in at a place in Kingston, NY.  ’97 Z71 short bed for $350.

> Thanks for the link. I also went to the rhino link from Zybart’s. I > think the spray on is the way to go just because the slide in will > always rub the paint. There’s no way to prevent it that I can see. > Anyone know a price on the rhino liner? > http://www.rhinolinings.com/index.html

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LINE-X spray on. also works good on wheel wells. molds to bed body and can be cleaned to original with conditioner. about $350.00 and looks sweet.

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Hi All, Thanks for all the responses ….  Here is what I found … ( This is My opinion ….) In summary – If you have a older – or well scraped up bed liner  -or –  you plan to haul items that will severely damage the bed ( gravel, machinery, etc.) I’d go for Rhino.  I may have this done in the future, but …. I decided against it on my new truck for the following reasons … 1.) I could find no warranty info on line (Web Page) , in their brochures, etc.  etc…..    I found that the "Dealers" are independent and state their own warranty – in writing – and after BOTH dealers had to search for it – they found it in their receipts (in small print.  Yes it is lifetime – for the liner – NOT to anything else (incidental damage caused by liner, damage to bed, rust, etc.)  They will repair the liner – re-spray or touch up. 2.) Application of the liner voids the GM warranty on my bed for paint, rust, rust through etc…  per the warranty manual. 3.) The Brochures and samples and in store display looked great – but not what you will really get.  I visited two dealers and dealers – Dealer  "A" showed me a recoat (the first application had a "leaky hose" on the gun and spotted/softened the bed in  couple places.  They re-coated the bed – and then had to "Spot" drip – touch up again – over a couple voids. The job looked terrible – like a tarred roof with large splatter coating ( like a tarred roof on with very small pebbles – NOT like the samples) – and the "Goop" touch up was not a nice touch.  If it was MY truck – I’d be pissed.   Also – the skill of the installer – taping, straightness, whether the liner "rolls" over the bed edge at the tail gate, etc. – is critical to a good looking end result.  If I had an old truck – I’d "settle" for this – but not for mine …. – Dealer "B" showed me an older truck / liner that was in the lot. This looked MUCH better.  Better detail, edging, spatter top coat, etc. ect. Although a little faded – it did not have a mark on it….  THIS installer did a great job. So – the liner works – looks good to stand up to time – BUT – I suggest you see the installers work BEFORE you decide and BE THERE  to inspect the tape job, edging, etc. etc. Regards,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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> So …  One direst question – do you foresee the Liner giving any problems > by causing trapped water / rust for life of the Vehicle??    I’m willing to > pay the money – but I want to put it in and forget it.  I do not want to > wrestle with problems that may not come under the "Limited" warrantee – Rust > / rust through/ bubbles, trapped water, etc …

I don’t think there is any possibility of trapping water under a spray-on lining.  It is like a very thick coat of paint- tightly adheres everywhere. Professional installers (like Rhino) are very careful in their installation process to make sure the surface is very clean and dry before spraying. Mine has shown no indication of such problems in six years. Paul Johnson Paul Johnson

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Hi Ann, try here .. http://www.ziebart.com/default.htm SteveC

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Where do you find these? > Amen.  I got a Rhino in my 99 the day after I bought it.  I wouldn’t have > anything else. > Randy > > ANY drop-in bed liner is going be to a problem.  I have a Rhino lining in > my > > ‘95 (done when it was new).  I have hauled garden tractors, rock, > firewood, > > lumber, etc. with no sign of damage in six years.  Advantages- no > > moisture/dirt trapped under in, reduces drumming of metal bed, is really > > non-skid, can be easily touched up if damaged and on and on.  I would stay > > away from the do-it-yourself types.  To me, $400-500 for a good bedliner > is > > cheap on a $30,000 plus truck. > > Paul Johnson > > (no, I don’t have anything to do with Rhino Company and there may be > others > > just as good- I’m just relating my experience)

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Thanks Paul, So …  One direst question – do you foresee the Liner giving any problems by causing trapped water / rust for life of the Vehicle??    I’m willing to pay the money – but I want to put it in and forget it.  I do not want to wrestle with problems that may not come under the "Limited" warrantee – Rust / rust through/ bubbles, trapped water, etc … Thanks, SteveC

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ANY drop-in bed liner is going be to a problem.  I have a Rhino lining in my > ‘95 (done when it was new).  I have hauled garden tractors, rock, firewood, > lumber, etc. with no sign of damage in six years.  Advantages- no > moisture/dirt trapped under in, reduces drumming of metal bed, is really > non-skid, can be easily touched up if damaged and on and on.  I would stay > away from the do-it-yourself types.  To me, $400-500 for a good bedliner is > cheap on a $30,000 plus truck. > Paul Johnson > (no, I don’t have anything to do with Rhino Company and there may be others > just as good- I’m just relating my experience)

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Go to Wall-Mart and get a can of the roll in bed liner.  Remove your slide in liner and sand the paint off of the parts of the bed where the paint is still there and then just roll on the coating.  Let it dry for a day or two and then put back in your slide in liner.  Total cost is $40 and will only take you an hour or two, plus the drying time.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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Don’t bother repainting if you go with one of the good spray-ins. They rough up and sand down the paint anyway so their stuff will adhere better. I didn’t even bother with a liner in my new Silverado.  This time, I went with a real heavy Dura-Liner mat mostly to protect the bed from dents and keep stuff from sliding all around.  I figured the sidewalls and wheel humps can get scratched up a bit and it won’t be any worse than the liner buffing.  I mostly haul furniture for friends when they move or dirt bikes, so the sides don’t get a real beating. I topped it off with a nice X-Tang tonneau to hide the scratches that will occur. Funny, when I started reading your post, I thought you were going to say it went sailing out of the bed going down the highway.  Don’t know why, but lately I’ve seen a few of them laying in the median of the highways around here! Anyway, I’d go with just the mat and tonneau or a spray in with tonneau to keep the UV from bleaching out you liner. GaryG

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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Thanks Gary – I had a laugh on that – I live in central Mass – and I DID see 2 bed liners on 290 last week !!! Steve

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Don’t bother repainting if you go with one of the good spray-ins. > They rough up and sand down the paint anyway so their stuff will adhere > better. > I didn’t even bother with a liner in my new Silverado.  This time, I went > with a > real heavy Dura-Liner mat mostly to protect the bed from dents and keep > stuff > from sliding all around.  I figured the sidewalls and wheel humps can get > scratched > up a bit and it won’t be any worse than the liner buffing.  I mostly haul > furniture > for friends when they move or dirt bikes, so the sides don’t get a real > beating. > I topped it off with a nice X-Tang tonneau to hide the scratches that will > occur. > Funny, when I started reading your post, I thought you were going to say it > went > sailing out of the bed going down the highway.  Don’t know why, but lately > I’ve > seen a few of them laying in the median of the highways around here! > Anyway, I’d go with just the mat and tonneau or a spray in with tonneau to > keep > the UV from bleaching out you liner. > GaryG > Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an > under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while > this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and > sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the > group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed > start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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Where do you find these? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Amen.  I got a Rhino in my 99 the day after I bought it.  I wouldn’t have > anything else. > Randy > ANY drop-in bed liner is going be to a problem.  I have a Rhino lining in > my > ‘95 (done when it was new).  I have hauled garden tractors, rock, > firewood, > lumber, etc. with no sign of damage in six years.  Advantages- no > moisture/dirt trapped under in, reduces drumming of metal bed, is really > non-skid, can be easily touched up if damaged and on and on.  I would stay > away from the do-it-yourself types.  To me, $400-500 for a good bedliner > is > cheap on a $30,000 plus truck. > Paul Johnson > (no, I don’t have anything to do with Rhino Company and there may be > others > just as good- I’m just relating my experience)

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Amen.  I got a Rhino in my 99 the day after I bought it.  I wouldn’t have anything else. Randy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ANY drop-in bed liner is going be to a problem.  I have a Rhino lining in my > ‘95 (done when it was new).  I have hauled garden tractors, rock, firewood, > lumber, etc. with no sign of damage in six years.  Advantages- no > moisture/dirt trapped under in, reduces drumming of metal bed, is really > non-skid, can be easily touched up if damaged and on and on.  I would stay > away from the do-it-yourself types.  To me, $400-500 for a good bedliner is > cheap on a $30,000 plus truck. > Paul Johnson > (no, I don’t have anything to do with Rhino Company and there may be others > just as good- I’m just relating my experience)

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GaryG,   Great, something else to worry about, my bedliner flying out! Actually, since I put a toolbox in, I’m ok or maybe my toolbox along with the carriage bolts will go flying out also!   Your reply reminded me of something that happened to me on a winding two lane mountain road years ago.  A pickup headed towards me and stayed in his lane but the camper shell on his truck somehow pivoted so that it was blocking my lane from the windshield up.  Only by the grace of God did I not collide with it. Jack Burdett – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Don’t bother repainting if you go with one of the good spray-ins. > They rough up and sand down the paint anyway so their stuff will adhere > better. > I didn’t even bother with a liner in my new Silverado.  This time, I went > with a > real heavy Dura-Liner mat mostly to protect the bed from dents and keep > stuff > from sliding all around.  I figured the sidewalls and wheel humps can get > scratched > up a bit and it won’t be any worse than the liner buffing.  I mostly haul > furniture > for friends when they move or dirt bikes, so the sides don’t get a real > beating. > I topped it off with a nice X-Tang tonneau to hide the scratches that will > occur. > Funny, when I started reading your post, I thought you were going to say it > went > sailing out of the bed going down the highway.  Don’t know why, but lately > I’ve > seen a few of them laying in the median of the highways around here! > Anyway, I’d go with just the mat and tonneau or a spray in with tonneau to > keep > the UV from bleaching out you liner. > GaryG > Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an > under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while > this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and > sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the > group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed > start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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ANY drop-in bed liner is going be to a problem.  I have a Rhino lining in my ‘95 (done when it was new).  I have hauled garden tractors, rock, firewood, lumber, etc. with no sign of damage in six years.  Advantages- no moisture/dirt trapped under in, reduces drumming of metal bed, is really non-skid, can be easily touched up if damaged and on and on.  I would stay away from the do-it-yourself types.  To me, $400-500 for a good bedliner is cheap on a $30,000 plus truck. Paul Johnson (no, I don’t have anything to do with Rhino Company and there may be others just as good- I’m just relating my experience)

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some random thoughts. bed liners are retarded.  a great idea, but a poor solution.  i think they cause more problems than they ever solve. i think spray in plastic bed liners are just as bad.  it’s not like a metal box that can be repainted when it starts looking bad.  when the spray in liner looks bad, you’re SOL. i’d make the dealer repaint the bed, if they don’t want to repaint the bed, then it’s time to make phonecalls. i’d promptly find myself a heavy-duty bed liner.  if you pay less than $90 for it, it’s a cheap one.  you need one that’s a solid 5/8" thick or more, with the nylon core.  it should have ribs on it 1/16" or so higher than the rest of the mat that mimics your bed.  it should have little nubs on the back side that are about the size of a pencil eraser. Why am I being so specific?  The ribs on the top size that look like your bed are good for holding things, the sand falls between the high spots and hold things well.  The nubs on the bottom are so that water and crud can get out and not work like sandpaper like the cheap mats.  It needs to be thick so that it doesn’t flop around in the wind (even though you should screw the back two corners into your bed) and so that when you drop a refrigerator corner on the truck, the refrigerator bends and not your bed. The type that are made from tire material are still traction giving when what as oppose to the plastic ones that feel like an inner-tube for a bicycle and are slippery when wet. Worried about the sides of your box getting beat up?  Probably shouldn’t.  I imagine that if you noticed that the bedliner is hurting your truck, you probably don’t do many things that are stupid enough to hurt the box of your truck.  However, I’d invest in a load bar/load stabilizer for your truck to keep things from moving around (like a 20lb propane cylinder or the groceries).  If you’re cheap like me, go ask a truck driver if he’s got one you can have for $40, I can guarantee it’ll be stronger than anything you’re going to find at a RV shop. -Brian

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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With a spray-in, that’s all you need.  You can skip the re-paint stage cause the spray-in liner is like a paint.  I’ve had a spray-in for the past 4 years and love it.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi all, > A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under > the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer. >  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this > truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding > around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to > the Primer. > So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group > ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start > rusting in the first year … > – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? > – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. > – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. > – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. > Thanks All!! > SteveC

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Hi all, A few weeks ago I purchased a new GMC Sonoma – and foolishly bought an under the rail GM Bed liner from the dealer.  4 weeks and a mere few tanks of gas and 1K miles later  (all the while this truck was treated and driven like a baby)  - due to the poor fit and sliding around – my "New" truck bed’s bottom is now paint free in places – down to the Primer. So  …..  while I argue with the dealer – what’s the opinion from the group ??  I’d like the Truck to last many years and I’d hate to have the bed start rusting in the first year … – Trash the liner – re paint the bed and go for a Mat ? – Paint the bed – add a mat and put the liner in. – Paint the bed – get a spray in liner. – Other opinions and feed back – MOST welcomed. Thanks All!! SteveC

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